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So blueprints channel in game was telling that invention is not profitable....
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Alvar Kesh
Ealurian Shipyards
#61 - 2011-09-30 12:29:56 UTC
I do manufacture T2 modules, most of them can be profitable, although it is good to watch the market a bit, not all items are always profitable and some never are. Although the "profit" can be higher if you use your own datacores, PI material, tech 1 bpcs, etc.

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Breaker77
Reclamation Industries
#62 - 2011-09-30 23:28:00 UTC
Alvar Kesh wrote:
I Although the "profit" can be higher if you use your own datacores, PI material,.


I see we have another idiot in this thread.
Shayla Sh'inlux
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2011-09-30 23:48:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Well, one could argue the extra "profit" is that if you would you have sold said "free" datacores, you'd have to pay market tax that you don't when you use them for yourself and value them at market sell values :).

We're talking at least 1000 isk per datacore! Roll
Wind Jammer
Molden Heath Software Company
#64 - 2011-10-02 02:14:45 UTC
Quite often you can find T2 BPCs on contract for less than it would cost you to invent. And even better that somebody else has paid for the risk of inventing Smile

Shameless plug, but the latest version of EVE Production Mixer shows the average cost of a successful invent. It has combined invention/manufacturing costs so you can see whether what's profitable. It even ranks the best decryptor/meta invention combinations too. Smile Just search for any T2 item.






http://eveproductionmixer.appspot.com
Trush
Liberation By Annihilation
#65 - 2011-10-02 03:50:00 UTC
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I see we have another idiot in this thread.


Datacores I sell are profit.
See what I did there?
Quetazal
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2011-10-05 11:39:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Quetazal
pussnheels wrote:
Breaker77 wrote:
pussnheels wrote:

2 takes some time to grind missiosn to acces r&d agents with theright datacores you need
costs: nothing you even get rewarded for it end the end result free datacores more than you will use




Are you stupid?

I could easily run 300+ invention jobs per day. Thats thousands of datacores per week! Even with the best research agents and research project management 5 (6 agents) you would come nowhere close to generating enough datacores in a month to run 1 day of invention jobs!

Now I had done this on all 9 characters, I might have came close to getting half the needed datacores.



So you are one of those people who made my trader account VERY VERY rich
And who says i am doing 100 s of jobs each week i am not
invention isn't the only option for a industrial carreer ,i actually started on invention because it was something new and a next step in my eve carreer
BTW before you wonder ...i have 4 accounts and this isn't my industrial character

Anyway the datacores i buy from my R&d agents are more than enough to cover all my inventions and guess what i don't have to pay over the top prices for them

Next time think before you call someone stupid


LOL!

You don't pay over the top for them AND you are a trader.

So the Datacores you earn are cheap right; they have min market value?

Think of it is way - if you was not using them how much could you sell them for (sell orders OC as you are a trader); now that is the ISK you are missing out on by using your own - which is strangely the exact same ISK then if you brought them from the market.

Jezus!
Spanking Monkeys
ZC Omega
#67 - 2011-10-05 12:35:54 UTC
download evemeep. there is an invention cost calc and production manager on that.
the invention calc will show you what it should cost on you to invent a bpc base on yoru skills.
the production calc will allow you to work out what it costs to build an item at the cost you pay for your materials. it also can break down the t2 parts into the raw moon min amounts also, so allows for costing on them also

when you start inventing, monitor the results you get, im using eve hq and it gives you the % return rate and tracks how many total and how many good invents you return. atm my ranges are 86%-45% return. the higher % is mostly down to meta 4 items being added to the mix as well as 5,5,5 skills for those items.

invention can be awesom, it can also be teh worst thing ever. i used to do ships but even with maxed skills my return rate sucked arse so swapped to mods and now i make 3-4bil a month inventing and producing.

inventing pays me more than building from my t2 bpo's. the bpos are just easier as its a 1 click build for a month, they are also a good investment as will return you steady isk and be worth at least what you pay for them.

so download eve meep and eve hq work things out for yourself.