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On goals and immortality.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#21 - 2012-04-25 16:09:53 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
A very interesting outlook, sir. It necessarily gives rise to the conclusion that capsuleers are not immortal after all. If this civilization is subject to the law of entropy, it will someday come to an end. In such case, it seems probable that technology and communication levels would decline as well. Should that happen, the extravagances of capsule and mind retransplantation technologies may be the first to fail. In which case, we capsuleers might find that we are quite mortal after all.


Those of us who haven't taken steps to ensure our survival even through such a cataclysm, anyway. I'm taking lots of notes from this Kuvakei fellow - he survived the four empires coming down on his head; I want in on that action.
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#22 - 2012-04-25 20:20:56 UTC
They say that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Who better to stand sentinel than the immortal?

It is not just the individuality of life itself that is precious, it is the otherwise mundane commodities that we share that go into sustaining it and make it flourish. You give me credit and I will give you the building blocks to build palaces to your aspirations

Yet when the deathly chill of lawless space reaches in to still the hearts of the free. Then - then the vigilant have no choice but to put aside their technological sickles and disregard our current petty squabbles to turn and join with our militant brothers in arms in defending our way of life

Even for the the immortal, there is only liberty - or death

Wait. watch. You will know when it is time.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#23 - 2012-04-25 20:29:25 UTC
Snowflake Tem wrote:
They say that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Who better to stand sentinel than the immortal?

It is not just the individuality of life itself that is precious, it is the otherwise mundane commodities that we share that go into sustaining it and make it flourish. You give me credit and I will give you the building blocks to build palaces to your aspirations

Yet when the deathly chill of lawless space reaches in to still the hearts of the free. Then - then the vigilant have no choice but to put aside their technological sickles and disregard our current petty squabbles to turn and join with our militant brothers in arms in defending our way of life

Even for the the immortal, there is only liberty - or death

Wait. watch. You will know when it is time.


I disagree with this assertion. I believe it is fairly trite and simplistic. I also believe that it holds a uselessly rosy view of liberty that, none-the-less, your average capsuleer will agree with because they would rather not have limits on their potential power.
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#24 - 2012-04-25 20:54:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Snowflake Tem
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:

I disagree with this assertion. I believe it is fairly trite and simplistic. I also believe that it holds a uselessly rosy view of liberty that, none-the-less, your average capsuleer will agree with because they would rather not have limits on their potential power.


The shackles of your masters utopia are kept well at arms reach. I've listened to your seductive whispers before, they hold no power.

There is a greater swarm of Immortals equally bent on domination and the disruption of trade. I have to wonder if you stand together in your pursuits.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#25 - 2012-04-25 20:57:01 UTC
Snowflake Tem wrote:
[quote=Tiberious Thessalonia
I disagree with this assertion. I believe it is fairly trite and simplistic. I also believe that it holds a uselessly rosy view of liberty that, none-the-less, your average capsuleer will agree with because they would rather not have limits on their potential power.[/quote

The shackles of your masters utopia are kept well at arms reach. I've listened to your seductive whispers before, they hold no power

There is a greater swarm of Immortals equally bent on domination and the disruption of trade. I have to wonder if you stand together in your pursuits.


If the CFC want to disrupt the other empires, I certaintly won't try to stop them. At the same time, I won't be participating because I consider mining barges, industrials, and the like to be civilian targets, and won't shoot at them unless specifically ordered to do so.

You speak in a very flowery manner, by the by.
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
#26 - 2012-04-25 21:35:32 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:

You speak in a very flowery manner, by the by.


Thank you, I think. It sometimes helps to blunt Mater directness.
I like to remain civil where I can. It is good for business.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2012-04-26 12:13:10 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:

I disagree with this assertion. I believe it is fairly trite and simplistic. I also believe that it holds a uselessly rosy view of liberty that, none-the-less, your average capsuleer will agree with because they would rather not have limits on their potential power.


CONCORD has done thousand times better than the Nation to restrain capsuleer "potential power". And they could do even more if required.

Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
At the same time, I won't be participating because I consider mining barges, industrials, and the like to be civilian targets, and won't shoot at them unless specifically ordered to do so.


You do quite the paltry Sansha loyalist. I wish you well in your work for a change in some of their ideologies.
Braka Hareka
#28 - 2012-04-29 15:41:23 UTC
Immortality is an heavy burden to bear for most, and capsulers seem more insulated then most against the flow of the centuries then the average mortal utilizing chemicals to attempt to prolong their life. I will acknowledge that while I have been an immortal for just under a month now I can see my end goals shaping themselves ahead of me, in that I wish to advance capsulers into a great union of our own, unbound from the constraints of mortals who seek to use us, as a tool to strike their foes and to ensure that they grow old and lessen their worry's.

"One death is a tragedy, a million deaths, a statistic"

Joseph Stalin
Naira Shandr
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-05-07 19:33:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Naira Shandr
Build, sell, live in the lap of luxury. Rinse and repeat as necessary.

Edit: I've always found the concept of gladiators fascinating. Owning a team and watching those of lower status rise to champions would be a worthwhile endevour.
Raphael Ordo
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#30 - 2012-05-08 11:36:07 UTC
We enter an age where the past no longer can foretell the future. An age of immortal pilots, immortal soldiers and immortal leaders.
In the end, the only constant in the universe is change.

I say mankind is doomed into madness. Our minds unable to comprehend or accept the inevitable end of things.

Only way to be truly immortal, we would have to leave our bodies for good and merge with our machines.
Thus my ultimate goal is brought to light.
Rana Ash
Gradient
Electus Matari
#31 - 2012-05-09 11:09:34 UTC
I have seen people come and go, many friends have died or retired planet side.
I have aquired a wast fortune and squanderd it away on ships and skills.
I have been a member of corps and a CEO, so what i have i learnt?.

Not much it seems, i still learn plenty from others. So i guess i'll spend my so called immortality on learning more...
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#32 - 2012-05-09 16:51:08 UTC
Snowflake Tem wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:

You speak in a very flowery manner, by the by.


Thank you, I think. It sometimes helps to blunt Mater directness.
I like to remain civil where I can. It is good for business.


Matari* or at the very least Matar*. Sorry, that was bugging me. Also, bluntness gets things done quicker and leads to less misunderstandings of overdone and unneeded complexity.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2012-05-09 21:49:41 UTC
Bluntness is often the priviledge of the uneducated.
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#34 - 2012-05-09 22:41:52 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Bluntness is often the priviledge of the uneducated.


Privilege, curse, default state of being...
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#35 - 2012-05-09 22:42:12 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Bluntness is often the priviledge of the uneducated.


Somehow, after reading this, I feel kinda bad about myself. Perhaps i do share some connection with my heritage. Bluntness can certainly be a virtue.
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#36 - 2012-05-10 02:23:09 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Bluntness is often the priviledge of the uneducated.


How does the ozone smell, with your nose so high in the air?
Gottii
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-05-10 02:42:53 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Bluntness is often the priviledge of the uneducated.



You're aware of how blunt a statement this is, yes?
Jev North
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-05-10 05:46:14 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Bluntness is often the priviledge of the uneducated.

Sadly, wit does not appear to be a particular privilege of the educated.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#39 - 2012-05-10 13:04:18 UTC
Gottii wrote:
Lyn Farel wrote:
Bluntness is often the priviledge of the uneducated.



You're aware of how blunt a statement this is, yes?


Good answer. That was precisely the point.

Bluntness is not a virtue by itself. Bluntness can be a proper usefull tool when used right.
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#40 - 2012-05-10 13:55:13 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
Bluntness is often the priviledge of the uneducated.


First thing that came to mind after reading this was that insults are the refuge of those with nothing worth saying. Then I decided you would just claim it wasn't meant to be an insult.

Either way, I find that those who are both educated and blunt are by far the most worthwhile to talk to.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim
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