EVE General Discussion

Can we start by making you destructible?

Greetings capsuleer,

All of New Eden should be destructible. All of New Eden should be claimable.

That is all,

Regards,

Shian Yang

Although I don't necessarily disagree with the OP's statement, OP increasingly turns out to be an annoying prick.

That is all.

With a face like that it looks like the process has already been started.

If 0.0 outposts become destructible, then Jita 4-4 should be too. Think about it. Thousands of trillions of isk worth of assets gone and isk will become more valuable!

Um, shouldn't it be that assets will be more valuable?

I mean there's the same amount of isk, but less assets, the latter goes up in price..

If everyone knows the Outposts are destructible, they're likely to take better care of their assets. Barring that, CCP can just bump inactive players assets to a 'safe' system and station when they've been gone for awhile. No big deal as far as I'm concerned.

As for these stations being filled with Trillions in assets, lets go back to my earlier post where I said they were essentially large hangars in space and not much good for anything else.

Fact: Everyone who complains that there is trillions in assets, clones, etc.. in these stations is most likely also saying that EVE should be harsh and unforgiving and players should lose stuff.

Currently, we have Null; Despite:

~Protestations that they should have instant travel through Jump Gates so they can spend more time doing what they like and less managing logistics and other necessities related to travel.
~Protestations that they should have owned stations, (outposts), that are indestructible and can be used to hoard stuff and store clones.
~Protestations that there is lots of fighting in Null and NAPs aren't a problem while half of Null is Blue to each other and most Alliances suffering heavy conflict and fighting that costs them time and again are small alliances or haver limited Blues being attacked by the NAP coalitions.
~Protestations that EVE should be safe anywhere, but when Null-viewed as a whole-is the safest space for those who live there, (mining, ratting, exploring, and running complexes), in large NAP Alliances, and has the highest profit PvE of any space in EVE, and the most toys usable by players.

..which is exactly the opposite of what is often voicd by those who live there with regard to anyone else playing EVE and not in Null.

Take into account the fact that most Nullsec Alliances fight as they want to and at their liesure, and it really is very nearly the safest place in EVE, if only for them.

edit: posting a good argument in a worthless thread = priceless.

The players aren't making the space safe in all cases; rather CCP is, with the Sov system requiring greater time investment for takeovers and more strategic maneuvering, (nothing wrong with that), and with Jump Bridges making trips much shorter and giving the ability to bypass potentially hazardous space, and other things. The players may have wanted such things, but they had little to do with implementing them or the safety they provide by their very existance.

Speaking of which: if they did implement destructible stations, I'd like to see it linked to the Sov syste, so the stations couldn't be destroyed until they were the only thing left on hostile ground. This also means I don't think they should transfer owner ship or shutdown with Sov changes. They should just lose their invulnerability.

The space is secure because of the efforts of the players in creating intelligence networks.

Edit: Have you ever lived in null-sec?

Actually all player owned stations should be destructible. If sov owning alliance can anchor a station egg, others should be able to destroy it with all the assets inside. Clones can be relocated to a nearest NPC station as we already have if another corp takes ownership and locks out everyone based on standings.

Currently the timer based station siege and flip mechanic is half baked. An invader that is able to maintain rapecages through the siege timers should be able to bask in tears of all whom lose their stuff in said station. There are regions in nullsec where literally every system has a station, I don't think that's how things were meant to be. There are simply no means to remove stations, you can build them but not remove seems incomplete to me.