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Attention Miners - 400m Free ISK Giveaway!
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#41 - 2012-05-07 11:52:31 UTC
Takseen wrote:

If any miner can post a killmail of them losing their Hulk with a tank of over 20k EHP, I will send that pilot 10 million ISK, for up to 10 pilots. Why only 10x10 million ISK? Because I'm poor, sorry. Its' the economy, man.

Start postin dem killmails.

Edit : With Andski and Joran also paying out 10m each, the total pool is now 300m ISK. Still waiting for the first API verified kill of a tanked hulk!



There is no such thing as a Good tank on a Hulk.

Get a Life. Really. I'm a CareBear and I'm telling you this is a waste of time.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-05-07 11:56:02 UTC
Sandra Vellocet wrote:
I haven't seen any fits posted n this thread yet but please feel free to post a good tank fit if you wish.


[Damnation, Mining ship with a tank]

Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense II
Salvager I
[Empty High slot]

[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Thermic Membrane II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

You asked. Big smile
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#43 - 2012-05-07 11:57:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Killer Gandry
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:



There is no such thing as a Good tank on a Hulk.

Get a Life. Really. I'm a CareBear and I'm telling you this is a waste of time.


You can get over 20k EHP pretty easy. It will cut down your maximum yield though.
Thing is that you might not survive, but it will take a heck of a lot more than a dessie or 2 or 3 to pop your arse.

Make it harder for them to kill you.
The harder it is the more it costs them.

And with more EHP you actually have more chance to survive a noob gank attack.
Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-05-07 11:58:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Romar Agent
Again... (seems to be flavour of the month time)

As a budget-conscious Highsec miner you don't tank against suicide gankers.

If you tank at all, you tank against Highsec rats (shield buffer or passive shield recharge).

And this after you maximized mining yield and cargo capacity.

You tank suicide gankers by system and belt selection and probability.

You tank suicide tankers by mixed calculation (x times high yield - n lost ships > x+n times low yield).

Mining is a business.

Businesses are ran by numbers, not by hurt feelings, killmails or epeen.
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#45 - 2012-05-07 12:05:40 UTC
Just an example to get well over 20k EHP
(26k with lvl 5 skills and lowest resist on shield is 71%)

Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II

Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Small Shield Extender II

Modulated Strip Miner II,
Modulated Strip Miner II,
Modulated Strip Miner II,

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-05-07 12:14:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Miss Whippy
I don't have any money but I do have some free advice. Instead of wasting huge amounts of money on a tanked hulk, just buy a covetor. It mines nearly as much as a tanked hulk and is currently about 250 Million ISK cheaper. Oh and you can insure it too, seems like a no-brainer to me.

Hulks cannot be fitted adequately to survive, all you do is bork the very thing they're designed for, which surprisingly enough is mining!

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#47 - 2012-05-07 12:28:17 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:



There is no such thing as a Good tank on a Hulk.

Get a Life. Really. I'm a CareBear and I'm telling you this is a waste of time.


You can get over 20k EHP pretty easy. It will cut down your maximum yield though.
Thing is that you might not survive, but it will take a heck of a lot more than a dessie or 2 or 3 to pop your arse.

Make it harder for them to kill you.
The harder it is the more it costs them.

And with more EHP you actually have more chance to survive a noob gank attack.



I'd just rather call Concord to the belt with an alt and run if Local is invaded or Concord is 'summoned away'.

Sacrificing yield is idiotic after that monstrous train for maximum yield. Siege Ganglink that Orca and use Shield Maint. Bots and you are as good to go as you will ever be.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-05-07 12:31:48 UTC
Your yield is 0 when you're dead.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#49 - 2012-05-07 12:32:57 UTC
Joran Dravius wrote:
Your yield is 0 when you're dead.



Show us where the bad man touched you and took your Hulk..................

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-05-07 12:35:50 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Joran Dravius wrote:
Your yield is 0 when you're dead.



Show us where the bad man touched you and took your Hulk..................

I was talking about your idiotic statement about not tanking. I don't mine, I'm the bad man.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#51 - 2012-05-07 12:40:15 UTC
Andski wrote:
by the way slapping a couple of hardeners and a shield recharger (lol) in your mids isn't a "tank"



And what is ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#52 - 2012-05-07 12:41:19 UTC
Joran Dravius wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Show us where the bad man touched you and took your Hulk..................

I was talking about your idiotic statement about not tanking.

I don't mine.



Prove it.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-05-07 12:41:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Andski wrote:
by the way slapping a couple of hardeners and a shield recharger (lol) in your mids isn't a "tank"



And what is ?

The tank 6 posts up.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Joran Dravius wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Show us where the bad man touched you and took your Hulk..................

I was talking about your idiotic statement about not tanking.

I don't mine.



Prove it.

Joran's Eve Board Do I look like I'm training mining?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#54 - 2012-05-07 12:44:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Killer Gandry wrote:
Just an example to get well over 20k EHP
(26k with lvl 5 skills and lowest resist on shield is 71%)

Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II

Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Small Shield Extender II

Modulated Strip Miner II,
Modulated Strip Miner II,
Modulated Strip Miner II,

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I



You lose 18%, almost 20% of Max Yield without MLU's in the Lows.

I would lose more ISK in one week than the cost of replacing TWO Hulks at least.

4 Tornados and this thing is still toast. Tanking is useless. Really it is.

Try it, fine.

But posting any Hulk Tank is a waste of time. They are all breakable, and do break indeed.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#55 - 2012-05-07 12:51:38 UTC
Then post the fit where you have a LSE fitted plus which implants you use to be able to fit it.

Also make sure you don't have any resistance holes :)
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#56 - 2012-05-07 12:54:19 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Then post the fit where you have a LSE fitted plus which implants you use to be able to fit it.




?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-05-07 12:58:34 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Just an example to get well over 20k EHP
(26k with lvl 5 skills and lowest resist on shield is 71%)

Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II

Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Small Shield Extender II

Modulated Strip Miner II,
Modulated Strip Miner II,
Modulated Strip Miner II,

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I



29,3k EHP without heat. 32,5k with heat.

[Hulk, Tankit]

Modulated Strip Miner II
Modulated Strip Miner II
Modulated Strip Miner II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Upgraded Thermic Dissipation Amplifier I

Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#58 - 2012-05-07 13:03:43 UTC
I know the best tank for a hulk, it can even survive 200 tornados.

Its called a warp drive.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#59 - 2012-05-07 13:07:48 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
I know the best tank for a hulk, it can even survive 200 tornados.

Its called a warp drive.


And here we go again...

Hulk has worse align time than triple plated trimarked Abaddon.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#60 - 2012-05-07 13:08:56 UTC
Vito Antonio wrote:
Sandra Vellocet wrote:
Just out of curiosity are there any orcas being ganked during hulkageddon, considering a orca has about 100,000ehp

You can get 150 000 EHP omni tank on orca relatively easily.


Try 250k EHP

Adapt or Die