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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#21 - 2012-05-06 18:42:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Post with your Main if you are gonna suck up to your idiot Leader in public. What a disgraceyou are to CFC.


this is my main O.o

My posting main

my actual main is in a 3 man highsec industry corp that prefers NOT to be wardecced to death so no thx




Sounds like you want the game to be easy too.

It is indeed full of cowards as of late. People scared to TYPE WORDS WITH THEIR MAINS and only type their "TRUTH" when unwilling to defend what they type for real. Good god..............

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Whitehound
#22 - 2012-05-06 18:42:45 UTC
SORRY, BUT I CANNOT HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUNDS OF EXPLODING HULKS!?!
WHATEVER YOUR PROBLEM IS, DID YOU TRY TO HARDEN UP OR THOUGHT ABOUT QUITTING THE GAME?
OR YOU CAN START A WHINE THREAD ON THE FORUMS, THOUGH I DOUBT IT WILL HELP.
SORRY FOR ALL THE CAPS, BUT IT IS REALLY LOUD HEAR. TOO MANY EXPLODING HULKS...

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#23 - 2012-05-06 18:44:01 UTC
Anybody seen The L0ck yet today ? NOW he's way overdue.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#24 - 2012-05-06 18:46:53 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

Post with your Main if you are gonna suck up to your idiot Leader in public. What a disgraceyou are to CFC.


this is my main O.o

My posting main

my actual main is in a 3 man highsec industry corp that prefers NOT to be wardecced to death so no thx




Sounds like you want the game to be easy too.

It is indeed full of cowards as of late. People scared to TYPE WORDS WITH THEIR MAINS and only type the "TRUTH" when unwilling to defenit for real. Good god..............


Dude youre thick as ****... how would I be wanting it safer JUST CAUSE in a TINY PLAYER CORP in highsec... Thats HARDER and is gonna get even harder after the new wardec when it costs a rat bounty in null to wardec corps of out size.

AND I agree with OP cause that how it SHOULD BE IN THIS Game. Itd be boring as hell otherwise

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Eian
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-05-06 19:23:09 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Andski wrote:
I think what they're implying is that an average player should be relatively safe in hisec.

That average player is most certainly not somebody flying a pimp-fit mission boat, a loaded hauler, or a particular high-end mining vessel. Or completely inattentive to what's going on in the game.

I'm assuming (well, hoping) they also mean the average player should be safe as long as they aren't AFK.


Me too cause ACTUALLY making it safer would be me deciding whether I wanna stay in an increasingly carebear friendly game or say **** it and join goons to punish them


If you want to get some, go out side and tear it up son! Oh wait, you're a carebear in RL so EVE is the only place you're got left to live out your fantasy of being on the other end.

/sadface4u
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#26 - 2012-05-06 19:39:07 UTC
It's moot. This carebear thing is going to dry up after the wardec change. They are going to mass in a few oft-deced alliances which eventually disband, and either join NPC corps straight away or later on. In the meantime eve will balance itself out, finally. I'm reading some carebear rage right now but in the end things will be as they should be. I don't care about going after NPC corp people in highsec anyway. The tax they pay and the diminishing returns they get will starve their wallets and they won't have any good loot to drop after a while anyway. Being in an NPC corp is no way to play the game unless you are new... and if you are new you have so much on your plate a little increase in relative safety seems fair. If CCP really wanted to put a fine point on it they would divvy all the NPC corps into their sponsor factions and allow faction warfare people to kill them. It's the highsec research facilities and tax-free trading and logistics corps raking it in that chaps my a**.

It's a good time to be a capsuleer.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#27 - 2012-05-06 19:46:54 UTC
Greyscale is clearly in favour of coating highsec in even more layers of bubble wrap, to the point where even the most abject retards won't be able to hurt themselves on the sharp edges or hard corners no matter how hard they bang their heads into them.

That's really not what I'm into.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#28 - 2012-05-06 19:54:15 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Greyscale is clearly in favour of coating highsec in even more layers of bubble wrap, to the point where even the most abject retards won't be able to hurt themselves on the sharp edges or hard corners no matter how hard they bang their heads into them.

That's really not what I'm into.

How do you figure that? I've been pouring over the Crimewatch and Wardec mechanics changes and all signs point to a lot of explosions and a ton of new ways to make that happen! There is going to be a lot of surprise *******. There's a lot of isk to be made out there from shooting for a change. Mercs are going to really come into their own on this thing too. I've actually thought of several reasons to hire mercs to do some of my heavy lifting for me too... already started scouting out corps (I can't bring the firepower to bear on my own). The only nerf (maybe) is to suicide ganking, and even then the concept of suicide ganking has been so narrowly defined in the non-thinking goons they don't realize that there are lots of ways to do it still. I'm sure their higher-ups will train as needed though. Suicide ganking isn't going anywhere. Empire is just opening up to other nefarious types that don't like to loose ships when killing empire dwellers.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#29 - 2012-05-06 19:56:12 UTC
Are you even remotely aware of what the changes actually are? Because I'm going to go ahead and say that you aren't.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#30 - 2012-05-06 20:00:21 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Are you even remotely aware of what the changes actually are? Because I'm going to go ahead and say that you aren't.

With Crimewatch yes. With the wardec changes the cost calculation this is still unknown, but what you see on SiSi is old. They've already moved well beyond that. There's still some other grey areas in the wadec changes too even after sisi gets the next update though. ...so I guess no I can't say I'm 100% on that one. Why don't you enlighten me there Vimsy. What is it you think you know that I don't?

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#31 - 2012-05-06 20:06:13 UTC
So you ignored the entire part about safeties and suspect flagging and losing sec status for defending yourself, or you think that's super great pro-PVP stuff that will really help get more PVP into highsec? Because its got to be one of those.
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-05-06 20:07:45 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=105069

Concord is a buffer of safety, not a net. I explain it more in the thread above.

Something clever
Miyamoto FiveRings
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-05-06 20:08:34 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Andski wrote:
I think what they're implying is that an average player should be relatively safe in hisec.

That average player is most certainly not somebody flying a pimp-fit mission boat, a loaded hauler, or a particular high-end mining vessel. Or completely inattentive to what's going on in the game.

I'm assuming (well, hoping) they also mean the average player should be safe as long as they aren't AFK.


Me too cause ACTUALLY making it safer would be me deciding whether I wanna stay in an increasingly carebear friendly game or say **** it and join goons to punish them



If the high sec mechanics regarding safety would decided if you kept playing or not then you my friend are also a carebear so glass houses...

Just because you gank hulks/indys, find some stupid enough in a mission to shoot at you or war dec a corp that you figure has no chance of competing when you warp in your out of corp logi's does no mean you're not also a carebear.

There are places where many of us live that none of this matters. So if high sec is just to safe for your taste then pack up and move out to low/null and all your problems are solved. But it is the "safety" that keeps all of you guys in high sec that are complaining about it.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#34 - 2012-05-06 20:12:54 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
So you ignored the entire part about safeties and suspect flagging and losing sec status for defending yourself, or you think that's super great pro-PVP stuff that will really help get more PVP into highsec? Because its got to be one of those.

No... I just don't care. Sec status is irrelevant because you can use commander and officer tags to buy your way back up. ...and if you are looking for PVP what do you care if you are flagged as long as concord isn't coming after you? You've never used a bait ship before? I'll tell you what... if you see me in a flagged merlin go ahead and attack me, OK? Big smile High sec can flipping is lame. You want to ninja loot do it in Tama. At least you will actually make isk at it. In HS can flipping isn't worth anyones time, even a noob. You are looking at this two dimensionally. You should stop being poor (poor people get kicked). If the cost of some tags and a "lets fight" flag are what has you down you are doing it wrong. I'd say you are not looking for a fight (victim) anyway.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Niko Takahashi
Yoshitomi Group
#35 - 2012-05-06 20:18:14 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:



STOP calling something with the structure of a paper bag 'High End". Jesus.


hey look, tears

Good job mittens

er andski


You missed a bit of the white stuff from sucking up:) still on the chin
Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#36 - 2012-05-06 20:30:58 UTC
rel·a·tive·ly/ˈrelətivlē/
Adverb:
1. In relation, comparison, or proportion to something else.
2. Viewed in comparison with something else rather than absolutely: "relatively affluent people".

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Lexar Mundi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-05-06 20:34:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexar Mundi
I guess I don't get the appeal of killing afk people in high sec, other than isk rich haulers.

Miners make this game run, they give us PvP people ships, and the game would not run without them unless CCP seeded ships on to the market. If you really want to kill stuff, low sec, nul sec, and wormholes should be the place to go. I think people are afraid to go in these places however because it presents a challenge, and gankers don't want a challenge.

I agree if your afk, you shouldn't be safe in high sec. but with the way Tier 3 BCs are, you can be sitting at your computer and still die to one salvo if the guy knows what hes doing. Right now, nul sec is safer than high sec ever could be for care bears... kill the nul sec care bears and leave the new people alone. If we stop killing the new people in high sec it will give us more targets in WH space and nul/low sec.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-05-06 20:54:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Xython
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Andski wrote:
I think what they're implying is that an average player should be relatively safe in hisec.

That average player is most certainly not somebody flying a pimp-fit mission boat, a loaded hauler, or a particular high-end mining vessel. Or completely inattentive to what's going on in the game.

I'm assuming (well, hoping) they also mean the average player should be safe as long as they aren't AFK.


Not just AFK, but not AFK, naked, in an extremely expensive ship, carrying an outrageous sum of money.

And these pathetic scrubs think that rather than change up these nasty habits, they should be made invincible.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#39 - 2012-05-06 20:59:36 UTC
Xython wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Andski wrote:
I think what they're implying is that an average player should be relatively safe in hisec.

That average player is most certainly not somebody flying a pimp-fit mission boat, a loaded hauler, or a particular high-end mining vessel. Or completely inattentive to what's going on in the game.

I'm assuming (well, hoping) they also mean the average player should be safe as long as they aren't AFK.


Not just AFK, but not AFK, naked, in an extremely expensive ship, carrying an outrageous sum of money.

And these pathetic scrubs think that rather than change up these nasty habits, they should be made invincible.


This is who they are.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Eric Konway
Tritanium Wolf Mercenaries
#40 - 2012-05-06 21:04:35 UTC
"Safe" is a relative term...