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Torpedo or Cruise Missile
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Suran Tarj
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#1 - 2012-05-06 10:13:04 UTC
Hey Guys.

After tryin bot Rokh, Maelstrom, and Raven u've decided to stay with the Raven. I've bought a CNR an fitted it as active tank. I now wonder - should I go for the torpedoes or cruise missiles?
My plan is to use it for lvl 4 missions. At the moment I have no slot free for a target painter.

so.. torp or cruise missile? pro/cons

/Suran
Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#2 - 2012-05-06 10:44:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Exploited Engineer
Suran Tarj wrote:
so.. torp or cruise missile? pro/cons


Cruise missiles. Range with torpedoes is bad with range rigs and abysmal without. Damage projection is problematic even with the Golem's TP and explosion velocity bonuses (which the CNR lacks).

The only "pro" of torpedoes in your case would be that they have other applications (namely: stealth bombers and possibly the Golem) while cruise missiles don't (they're used with Ravens/CNR/CNS and no other ship type).
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#3 - 2012-05-06 12:08:52 UTC
With both you will need painters and/or rigor - flare rigs. If not, you must rely on your drones to get rid of the pesky L4 mission assault frigate with scram.

And sometimes I found myself in trouble with two painters, flare and rigors AND drones to kill an AF in time if i messed up with agro or with active tank in my SNI

Although my skills are still training.

Torps are good for PvP raven or stealth bomber if you get close to a POS or another BS. For missions, the range is needed since you won't want to travel 50 km to kill a BS who is hammering you from afar in your slow CNR
Suran Tarj
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#4 - 2012-05-06 12:27:58 UTC
thank you for the answers. I'll stick to the crusie missiles, and train until I can fit a painter

/suran
Death Toll007
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-05-06 12:58:20 UTC
Depends... which system do you mission in?

-DT
Dato Koppla
Neuronix
#6 - 2012-05-06 13:02:37 UTC
Just some advice, go cap-booster on your CNR, its a good mission ship to cap boost. Also, 3x Rigors for rigs or 2x T2 Rigors 1x T1 Flare if you wanna splurge.
General Trajan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-05-06 13:42:59 UTC
torps are sick when used with a golem. anything within 60km takes a massive beating. if you see yourself using a golem then you want torps.

if you're perfectly fine were you're at with a navy raven then stay with cruise. and training to T2 cruise launchers is a good thing since you'll get more damage against BS and BC rats when using T2 fury cruise.

also consider a tengu. can do all L4s and gives you allot of flexibility as well. while you use this ship you can focus on torps/golem on the side among other things as well if need be.
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-05-06 19:18:41 UTC
CNR / Cruises.

Golem atm aint worth it.
Heun zero
MAYHEM BOYZ
#9 - 2012-05-06 20:05:00 UTC
I've flown both ships extensively and the CNR is definetly better off with cruise missiles. As ppl mentioned above torps have both really bad range and really bad damage application.

Torps are good for the golem but that still needs 2 or 3 bonused target painters to work and 2 t2 range rigs to get anywhere near to a decent range.


Otrebla Utrigas wrote:


Torps are good for PvP raven or stealth bomber if you get close to a POS or another BS. For missions, the range is needed since you won't want to travel 50 km to kill a BS who is hammering you from afar in your slow CNR


torps might be good for a pvp raven, but the question is what is a pvp raven good for?? There a better ships out there for the grand excitement of pos bashing
General Trajan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-05-06 20:45:53 UTC
whether a Golem is worth it or not is in the eye of the beholder.

L4 enemies abound. one can honestly say that a cruise raven can top a golem? what about angel extravaganza+bonus room? in the bonus room with my golem i move towards the dps. everybody i've seen in a navy raven (except me) i've ever seen align away from the dps. but even still a Golem is not the better choice between the two ships for AE? how about damsel in distress even? still think navy raven is better option than golem?

and even with range missions i still prefer my tengu over my navy raven (witch has been collecting hanger dust for over a year now).

and i tell you now that a golem at marauders-5 with max skilled domination TPs is a sight to behold. and with T2 rage no less. every BS within 30km is 2 volley. and then 2-3 volley up to 40km. in spite of dealing with crappy cycling of TPs i freakin love my golem. but that's just only me a guess.