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Remember WTZ?

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Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#1 - 2012-05-06 08:29:05 UTC
So I was flying around and decided to go to a system that I haven't been to in many many moons. Wasn't I surprised when I load up in system and right-click to go to the station when I see this..http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/Shaunessy/20120506082108.jpg

For those that never experianced WT15 this is only a small portion what your P&P and screen would look like if they ever removed WTZ. So once and for all let's drop the WTZ argument.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-05-06 08:36:10 UTC
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#3 - 2012-05-06 08:36:22 UTC
But WHAA!! How will I catch people in my gate camps if they can warp to 0! Time for me to claim that it will make EVE a better place!

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-06 08:45:42 UTC
Wow that looks obnoxious.
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#5 - 2012-05-06 08:58:53 UTC
It was a little bit and that isn't even the gate BMs and the station BMs. Plus that is only one system...

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Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-06 09:03:34 UTC
I have never experienced this but I am impressed by the effort that people put in to this game before you could zoom to 0

Ferox #1

Michael1995
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#7 - 2012-05-06 09:07:47 UTC
We should totally remove WTZ so we can have these awesome bookmark sets. P

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Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#8 - 2012-05-06 09:09:19 UTC
Michael1995 wrote:
We should totally remove WTZ so we can have these awesome bookmark sets. P

I'll sell you all mine for the low low price of 50 mil per system.

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Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-06 09:30:08 UTC
Schalac wrote:
Michael1995 wrote:
We should totally remove WTZ so we can have these awesome bookmark sets. P

I'll sell you all mine for the low low price of 50 mil per system.

If you actually have those BMs I would be interested in buying them

Ferox #1

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-05-06 09:35:51 UTC
Schalac wrote:
So I was flying around and decided to go to a system that I haven't been to in many many moons. Wasn't I surprised when I load up in system and right-click to go to the station when I see this..http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/Shaunessy/20120506082108.jpg

For those that never experianced WT15 this is only a small portion what your P&P and screen would look like if they ever removed WTZ. So once and for all let's drop the WTZ argument.


That doesn't make sense. There are other ways to get rid of warp to zero and bookmarks. At the same time. You're acting like warp to zero wasn't a quick lazy fix. They could of just made it so no matter where you warp from or to, you get stuck at 15km, like a bubble does.

Simple, and i don't see how your post makes that idea invalid. I mean I'm open to the idea we shouldn't have warp to 15, but your reasoning isn't the counter argument anymore.

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-05-06 09:36:50 UTC
Kietay Ayari wrote:
I have never experienced this but I am impressed by the effort that people put in to this game before you could zoom to 0


we used to get paid per bookmark in my corp actually, it was it's own profession!

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Lt Angus
Goat Herders
#12 - 2012-05-06 10:24:59 UTC
I sold whole regions for 10 mill
Snowtigers Claws
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-05-06 10:46:15 UTC
Long time ago a BM set for travelling to Fountain consisted of a can with 320 bookmarks in. Or was that for going to the top of the universe. I forget. Anyway I digress.

There was a thriving market for bookmarks. Which, of course needed checking before using because there were always a couple that put you 90-100km beyond the gate into a place that "could" have hostiles in.. (and frequently did) but the biggest bugbear was copying them.

One moment of lag or a dropped packet and 320 turned into 319 and the missing one was never obvious. And every member of the fleet needed their own copies.. and they had to have backups..

Ugh
Marcus Harikari
#14 - 2012-05-06 11:38:26 UTC
That's kind of what my bookmarks for mining belts look like.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-05-06 11:55:19 UTC
Snowtigers Claws wrote:
Long time ago a BM set for travelling to Fountain consisted of a can with 320 bookmarks in. Or was that for going to the top of the universe. I forget. Anyway I digress.

There was a thriving market for bookmarks. Which, of course needed checking before using because there were always a couple that put you 90-100km beyond the gate into a place that "could" have hostiles in.. (and frequently did) but the biggest bugbear was copying them.

One moment of lag or a dropped packet and 320 turned into 319 and the missing one was never obvious. And every member of the fleet needed their own copies.. and they had to have backups..

Ugh



and considering how a single BM is stressful for the game's DB, then one will start to imagine how lag-inducing this was.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-05-06 12:27:07 UTC
You don't have more than that ? o_O
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#17 - 2012-05-06 12:29:10 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
You don't have more than that ? o_O

Not really because when they added WTZ they removed all the station and gate BMs.

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#18 - 2012-05-06 12:36:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
came expecing moar wtz QQ left dissapointed

Schalac wrote:
So I was flying around and decided to go to a system that I haven't been to in many many moons. Wasn't I surprised when I load up in system and right-click to go to the station when I see this..http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/Shaunessy/20120506082108.jpg

For those that never experianced WT15 this is only a small portion what your P&P and screen would look like if they ever removed WTZ. So once and for all let's drop the WTZ argument.


also soul and server crushing lag that caused

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-05-06 12:49:52 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

also soul and server crushing lag that caused


people have souls?
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#20 - 2012-05-06 12:51:03 UTC
All you need is to increase the landing zone sphere's radius from 2500 m to 15 km. Warping anywhere but "at 0 on target" could possibly make you land that much further. No bookmark would solve this.

The cool thing about this idea is you can now make certain ships/introduce new mods that decrease said radius so ships meant for fast travel can do so.
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