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How to stay the safest during Hulkageddon
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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#41 - 2012-05-05 15:41:03 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Why mine at all? Get in a Thrasher/Brutix/Tornado and join the fun!


We have very different ideas of fun.

Nothing against those who enjoy it, just not my cup o'tea.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#42 - 2012-05-05 15:44:29 UTC
How to stay safest: Go unsub and play another MMO. Eventually the dropping subs will give CCP an incentive to change it. Then the Goons mass unsub and we see if CCP are willing to accept THAT loss to prevent noobs and miners from leaving

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Plekto
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-05-05 18:41:08 UTC
The game works as designed. Sandbox means you need to adapt because your enemies are doing the same.

The way to stay safe is to essentially make yourself unappealing to go after. This means bare basics t1 Barges with nothing special on them. Insure them and don't cry when they get popped as it's only a 5 mil or so isk loss at that point - or none if you're mining for a while before you get blown up.

And it will be a while. Pirates, knowing they will lose their ships in 0.5 and take a sec status hit won't risk it for no payout and equal isk in losses.

Nobody bothers to steal the 20 year old Civic when there's a shiny Mercedes next to it.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#44 - 2012-05-05 19:01:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Did you know that mining in a maxed BS is funnier than do so in a Hulk?

It takes about 4 minutes to fill your hold, then you just jump back to station, then warp to another bookmark and repeat...this also makes easier to meet rats as you'll be jumping to "fresh" unspawned belts on every shift.

Compared to that, it takes about 13 minutes to load a Hulk to the top...

Ore per minute is kinda carp (750ish m3 minus drones), but fun per minute is sweet. Lol
Whitehound
#45 - 2012-05-05 19:06:25 UTC
Do not undock in a mining ship.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-05-05 19:09:47 UTC
Pay Andski for the mining permit.

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#47 - 2012-05-05 19:25:15 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Why mine at all? Get in a Thrasher/Brutix/Tornado and join the fun!


We have very different ideas of fun.

Nothing against those who enjoy it, just not my cup o'tea.


A few month's(?) ago we jumped on a cap ship, badly cynoed in, way, way of docking range.
He was part of a bunch of caps that jumped in all together.
Before he got his triage up he was dead.

I went happy to bed, knowing we killed a cap.
Then I woke up feeling sad for the dude because non of his "friends" undocked and even tried to help him.

Weird no? I enjoyed massively killing it then extrapolated on that and next day felt not so 'happy' about it.

Then again this whole game is about dog eats dog. If you don't eat dog, dog eats you.

Thing is, shooting any mining specialized vessel is like fishing with dynamite sticks.
Only way for the fish to survive is not be there at all.



Real men don't fish with dynamite. :o
Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2012-05-05 21:07:17 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
No More Heroes wrote:
Why mine at all? Get in a Thrasher/Brutix/Tornado and join the fun!


We have very different ideas of fun.

Nothing against those who enjoy it, just not my cup o'tea.


Real men don't fish with dynamite. :o



Come, come now. There is no problem that cannot be solved with a proper application of high explosives.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#49 - 2012-05-06 07:04:16 UTC
Plekto wrote:
The game works as designed. Sandbox means you need to adapt because your enemies are doing the same.

The way to stay safe is to essentially make yourself unappealing to go after. This means bare basics t1 Barges with nothing special on them. Insure them and don't cry when they get popped as it's only a 5 mil or so isk loss at that point - or none if you're mining for a while before you get blown up.

And it will be a while. Pirates, knowing they will lose their ships in 0.5 and take a sec status hit won't risk it for no payout and equal isk in losses.

Nobody bothers to steal the 20 year old Civic when there's a shiny Mercedes next to it.


Funny how ppl use the sandbox as an excuse for hulkageddon and yet if you point out the game is a sandbox an thats why high sec isnt the starter zone they still QQ lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Nate Hill
Rocket No. 9
#50 - 2012-05-06 10:32:30 UTC
Dock.
Mono Ethanolamine
Perkone
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-05-06 10:40:47 UTC
Stop mining!
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-05-06 10:45:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Did you know that mining in a maxed BS is funnier than do so in a Hulk?

It takes about 4 minutes to fill your hold, then you just jump back to station, then warp to another bookmark and repeat...this also makes easier to meet rats as you'll be jumping to "fresh" unspawned belts on every shift.

Compared to that, it takes about 13 minutes to load a Hulk to the top...

Ore per minute is kinda carp (750ish m3 minus drones), but fun per minute is sweet. Lol


Rokh with T2 miners and T2 crystals pulls in 1200 m3 / minute and has 625 m3 cargohold if you go for full yield+tank.
Phos Quickburn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-05-06 10:53:47 UTC
I think the best thing in hulkageddon is to mine with some armed friends in cloaked fleet. Try it!Twisted
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-05-06 10:59:10 UTC
Phos Quickburn wrote:
I think the best thing in hulkageddon is to mine with some armed friends in cloaked fleet. Try it!Twisted


Not enough time for Recon to lock destroyer if ganker isn't a noob.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#55 - 2012-05-06 11:21:13 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Did you know that mining in a maxed BS is funnier than do so in a Hulk?

It takes about 4 minutes to fill your hold, then you just jump back to station, then warp to another bookmark and repeat...this also makes easier to meet rats as you'll be jumping to "fresh" unspawned belts on every shift.

Compared to that, it takes about 13 minutes to load a Hulk to the top...

Ore per minute is kinda carp (750ish m3 minus drones), but fun per minute is sweet. Lol


Plus you have a tank and if the gankers are fleeted you can suprise them

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-05-06 11:21:35 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
How to stay safest: Go unsub and play another MMO. Eventually the dropping subs will give CCP an incentive to change it. Then the Goons mass unsub and we see if CCP are willing to accept THAT loss to prevent noobs and miners from leaving

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#57 - 2012-05-06 13:20:45 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Did you know that mining in a maxed BS is funnier than do so in a Hulk?

It takes about 4 minutes to fill your hold, then you just jump back to station, then warp to another bookmark and repeat...this also makes easier to meet rats as you'll be jumping to "fresh" unspawned belts on every shift.

Compared to that, it takes about 13 minutes to load a Hulk to the top...

Ore per minute is kinda carp (750ish m3 minus drones), but fun per minute is sweet. Lol


Rokh with T2 miners and T2 crystals pulls in 1200 m3 / minute and has 625 m3 cargohold if you go for full yield+tank.


For one man ops it's easier to go to full hold+tank.
Ayame Tao
#58 - 2012-05-06 16:37:17 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:


this just makes people like me who love breaking out the probing covops very, very happy.

sort by hulk - warpins ♥


ian papabear wrote:


since when do overviews show cloakies? XD


Please can I have some of those cloaked Combat Scanner Porbes you have?
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#59 - 2012-05-06 16:40:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Phos Quickburn wrote:
I think the best thing in hulkageddon is to mine with some armed friends in cloaked fleet. Try it!Twisted


Not enough time for Recon to lock destroyer if ganker isn't a noob.


You can, you can.
Only issue is that it works for Hulks but Macks always die even if you instalock the dessie.

I actually wonder why Macks get such crap tank. After all they are also 0.0 ships for the ice out there, aren't they?

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Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-05-06 16:42:32 UTC
Try the GW2 beta it's good.