Player Features and Ideas Discussion

9,000 new pilots in egghelende, all docked up and afk would not change the game in any meaningful way, but that's about all the positive change you'd get with a change like this. They wont operate in low sec, they'd just log off there - one jump away from hisec. As for negative changes... I see no problem with low/null getting benefits, but dear lord would the carebear tears would flow.

At best you'd give station campers a few velators and ibis to shoot at.

Sorry, but it's just a bad idea.

I like the idea

You can have the +3 bonus not stack with current +3's but still allow people to buy +4/+5's to gain an edge in learning if they want.

People would just take a rookie ship or something they don't care about losing, and log off in a lowsec station.

Perhaps the bonus should only apply while actively flying around?

The chances of getting podded in lowsec are slim if you're a halfway decent pilot. I'm sure most people wouldn't have any problem whatsoever flying around with a set of +5s.

With all remap points on two attributes and +5 implants you could skill at 2970 SP/hr, as opposed to the max 2700 SP/hr now.

I'm not terribly opposed to the idea, I just don't see any real reason for it. I think the problem that really needs to be addressed is clone jump timers.

If border systems become full with carebear noobships expect gates with disco battlesips.


This could be adressed with a small adjustment of the base attributes.


That doesn't really solve the problem for noobs since they don't have access to jump clones.

Get out.

Did you read the OP?It will give newbs a choice between buying expensive implants or get the same benefit for free in lowsec.

Base attributes can be adjusted (-2) to get SP/hr withing reasonable limits. And even covops ships will get podded by smartbombing battleships.

You kids are funny. Not enough brains to formulate coherent arguments but funny.

There is a danger that newbs become risk adverse with expensive implants in their head so they stay in empire until they get bored and quit. I like them to go to lowsec and have fun instead.

Some people may take the chance to go to lowsec with their expenisve implants and logg off. But with a 24h timer most people would probably not benefit much from such strategy. Those who stay and play the game in lowsec will however.

From an RP perspective it makes perfect sense that your skills increase faster in a dangerous environment compared to residing in the safety of highsec.

Real noobs generally arent loaded with "expensive" implants owing to their very nature of being noobs, generally their aversion to going into lowwsec (from my experience talking to noobs, by no means a scientific or complete survey) stems from getting killed often by people who camp the gates at lowsec to hisec connections. Losing ships tends to be the more important factor to noobs then implants which they can't yet afford.

Noobs living in hisec often quit because of the consistent "griefing" or targeted attacks by bored higher skilled players and not from lack of activities. can flipping miners and scanning missions with the expressed purpose of baiting missioners, ganking industrials and many other activities that happen in the confines of hisec seem to be the leading causes of people leaving.

as there is no exit survey, these results are hard to confirm.

being "curb stomped" as another poster put it, repeatedly by gangs and solo hi skilled players over and over in lowsec do not make for a fun experience.

I dont quite understand the 24 hour timer you are proposing, how exactly will it work? you have to be online for 24 hours? inspace or docked? im not sure how this wont be only for those training super cap pilot alts.

And as to the RP, It doesnt. If this game were a repetition based skill game then it would make sense that living out in null would train you the fastest. but it isnt, its a time based game. repetition of activities or even being logged on doesnt change your skill training, how the sec of where you happen to have last logged off would change that doesnt make any RP sense.