Market Discussions

quite a few saw this coming weeks before the patch, bit late now as I doubt a solo PVE boat will go over 1B isk
But hey, you never know.

also, if the price goes to high, mission runners will seek other ships that will apear as lesser negative killmails, and the price all in itself.

On the other side of the coin:

The biggest Factor that may just push the Rattle above 1B isk, Tech 2 ships, Tech 2 BPO holders of these cruisers, battlecruisers and battleships will be dancing at the Bonfire, singing songs and drinking the finest Kaldari Ale if the rattle goes up to 1B ISK, for the value of their blueprints will triple the same day.

Sounds dubious. Has anyone verified it and if true, does anyone think it will stay that way?


Even without stacking penalties, they won't "rule" but they could be mighty convenient.

Take it to CAOD. We only dump on Goons here.

do they affect sentries too?


i ask since sentries already have damage mod rigs, and CCP usually keeps drones and sentries separated.

if they dont apply to sentries they are pretty useless really, specially on a rattler, since to dps with meds or heavies you need 2 omni tracking on the mids AND drone mwd upgrades, at least 2 of each... thats 4 midslots gone to make drone dps viable compared to sentry dps. (to do sentries all you need is 2 omnis, faction)

anyway, having the rattler rise in price is a tad too far fetched... they have been selling for years at a very slow rate, the stockpile of rattlers/bpcs must be stupid high.


also whats the damage mod? +12%? no RoF mod?


bleh, anyway i look at it, rattlers are still sentry ships and instead of upgrading drone DPS they will go for missile damage mods.

keep in mind any sentry rattler will already have a t2 sentry drone upgrade for +15%, this drone mod will be an extra 8% due to stacking, and the next mod you add will be 4%... its ****.

anyone can see missile mods are 10x better, specially since the rattler has such a stupid tank that you can fill it with deadspace and faction mods without worrying of getting alphaed at a gate.

all this still leaves the rattler FAR behind the other pirate Battleships, even with the lows filled with drone damage mods. this isnt really a problem, the Rattler has a niche group of users and they couldnt care less for an extra 8% damage if it means they have to stop reading the book they have open on the desk and care about their afkrattler.

in the other hand, alts flying DPS focused Gilas could benefit a lot from this.

So i wasn't the only one coming to this conclusion

Apparently the new test server build will have cap-injected boosters boost twice as much as regular boosters, however with a 60 sec reload after cap charges have expired.

So this favours short solo engagements. I guess big winners are Merlin, Hawk, Harpy, Worm and probably some matar frigs.

The dmg mod is 15 % now, pending further changes. That alone puts the Rattler past a CNR, which is the relevant benchmark here.

Vindi - i hope you didnt mean blaster fit, because that isn't exactly practical.
Mach - high maintenance (need to move, watch triggers)
NM - only good against sansha, BR

The Rattler will be able to outdmg a CNR while it won't even have to switch hardeners for full room aggro @90k+ range.

I don't know what the value of a Rattlesnake will be, given that there must be a huge stash around. I am pretty sure it will be quite popular for anoms and L4 missions now though. Besides for a manip attempt it is kind of late since it already rose by 100M+. I bought 7 Rattlesnakes when they were around 580M and the fanfest guy talked about drone dmg mods. I am going to wait how they will end up after the changes, i doubt they will be around 580M again though. Make of that what you will :-)