Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Fellow Capsuleers, What is the purpose behind podding. As far as I can see it is counterproductive. Sure kill the ship or try for ransom, loot or salvage. But to pod the pilot too is just too much. No profit, creates hostility, pays others to kill you, things like that.

Ok, let be adult about this and eliminate podding. How, easy, make all pods invulnerable, period. Concord already visits severe sanctions against podding in hi-sec. Why not just extend this and make all pods invulnerable? Your thoughts???

making pods invulnerable means that the implant market will crash because the only way of removing them from the game will have been eliminated.

Does this mean you mad bro? Killing somebody in eve is what sets it apart from wow, in wow you don't lose anything = no risk. In eve there is always risk. If you don't like it don't play eve. Also don't implant what you can't afford to lose.

Actually, if the removal of podding was done right, and with some changes in mechanics of the game, it could make the game even harder and loss more costly.

There are a lot of players who have things arranged in such a manner that their stations are like respawn points too. That's very convenient. I have seen people too tired to do the 40 jumps and get fleet-mates to pod them home too. Easy easy easy.

Finally, if you never get podded but lose a lot of ships, how is that creating a need for more implants? Pods are hard to target, the only place to net them is 0.0 with a warp bubble. In low sec you have to rely on smarties or a very boosted intie for a fast lock.

Removal of podding, would work if we also addressed the actual real good reasons to kill a pod:
- a pod can still gather intel in a system
- a clone for a more experienced player can be costly and draw away funds for more offensive assets
- the enjoyment of it



But what if:

- pods have a limited overview and cannot see any other ships on screen.
- pods having limited fluid routers and transponders so that communications with and viewing of anybody else in local is no not possible.

Now the intel-gathering capability of the pod is gone.

One of the things I see the PVP crowd raging about when complaining about the so-called "carebear" is that the latter is doing a low cost high gain game. That's not the issue here but it is true that a high-sec missioner can have the +5 matched set that costs 1 billion ISK and go for a very very long time - even indefinitely - without getting podded. That implant set with the right skills can make such a player lose tier 2 ships with modules all day , but never affecting the cost -reward ratio enough when the implants that are never at risk are never lost.


But what if, when losing a ship, there was a random destruction of any number of implants?


After all, the affect of losing a T3 ship causes a loss of SP, but surely the massive power impulse generated in the electrical system of a ship when it is destroyed could have some effect on the implants?

Therefore, having lost the reason to kill a pod, and a pod being useless without a ship, plus some damage to implants on ship loss, the risk is spread across all playing styles.

This would actually boost implant demand. Low and 0.0 players who might be averse to implants can get them without fear of losing all of them. Those who have them will start to lose them on occasion they lose a ship. The demand for implants will spike considerably, and then level off above the present demand.

Of course I would suggest that self-destruct of capsules is still an option. The reason being that it's worse not getting the clone-ride home and having to do 40+ jumps home to re-ship. But here we have a very difficult choice being created: be impatient or need to re-ship really really bad and dump the clone and everything in it OR suffer through a long trip and the fleet battle will be long over even before you get back to station.

Removing self-destruct would make ship loss even worse - and it's still easier to lose a ship than a pod.

So make them indestructible, but completely useless, and make ship loss trigger random implant loss and I think this will work. The "pain" will be spread across playing styles and losing a ship means an even greater penalty.

sorry but its a terrible idea

Sorry its a terrible idea .

With the time and effort people put into playing eve it kinda gets personnel when someone attacks . So costing them their ship and possibly costing them a month or 2 worth of training is proper retribution . CCP only shun these action in high sec . Yes in lowsec you get a GSC and a hit on security if its not a war dec , but concord are not there . If people are willing to go that far in lowsec thats their decision .

Removing that from lowsec or high sec is making the game too safe . CCP only shun podding in high sec . Yes in lowsec you are given a hit in security for doing so but thats the way it goes . For the reward of warding people off the system your occupying there is the set back of bad securiy standings .

What better way to send a message like " WE DONT WANT YOU HERE " than costing people their ships and possibly months of skill training if they havent updated their clones . Along with the isk loss of buying new implants .

i agree with this guy...

I say remove poding.

So i can warp scram a guy and hold him im place for 23 hours :) And greaf that succor.

Nothing like ruining 23.30 hours of game time for somebody

As much as I agree to the point of there bing no real practical reasoning behind podding, removing podding removes the risks of having many billions of isk in imps and some skill points if you haven't been keeping your clone updated. I have been podded once with a full set of +5's (because I was stupid and wasn't paying attention, so yeah it does happen) so I can agree that it sucks, but you may as well recommend making high sec completely free from pvp/wardecs at that rate, and that will NEVER happen.

has to be a troll post right?

Pod full of implants is the singular reason people are so risk-averse. In Perpetuum, which lacks pods, and you lose only what you're in, there's a lot more pvp. If not for podding, Eve would be filled with Rifters...