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Ancient inactive characters, Should CCP delete them to open up their names?
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Andoni Cane
Game of Drones
The Initiative.
#1 - 2012-05-03 20:44:04 UTC
Well today i was sitting here thinking of opening up a new alt account and decided to see if a name that i liked was taken and it was, by a 2004 character in a school. After which i decided to take a looksie on the forums and found that CCP almost never deletes characters [or at least their names]. Now my question is, is this somthing i should petition CCP to do for me? Shoot 'em a petition that says "Hey look, that character has been inactive for 8 plus years and there are people [namely me] who would want to use that name. Could you at least remove his name so i can use it?" I am fairly certain i will get a resounding "No" as a response, but now the question is, should CCP free up character names from VERY inactive players? I am not talking about 2-3 years i mean people from back before 2005. Or people who have been permabanned.

Any thoughts?


I am also sure there have been similar discussions in the past but the question remains unanswered.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#2 - 2012-05-03 20:51:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Micheal Dietrich
Seriously guys, what is up with the gankage. I can't reply to the op.


There was a big outrage that said people were supposedly keeping the names for possible future use, but like you I believe that after 8 years I seriously doubt that they are coming back.

In between ganks breathe

But to keep it fair, I mentioned that CCP should email the owner of the player and ask if you would like to relinquish the name or keep it.

Attempt #10 to finish my thought.

If they don't answer within 7-14 days then that player becomes (nation)citizen(number)

I made it! and I think I found a forum bug!

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#3 - 2012-05-03 20:51:47 UTC
I can tell you right now CCP won't delete them, I've asked a GM to delete an ancient alt of my own as I wanted to reuse the name, and they wouldn't go farther than assosciating the old account with my new email after ownership was proven. It would cost me a PLEX to get that name (not really worth it).
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#4 - 2012-05-03 20:53:05 UTC
You can now use three word names. Think of something else.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#5 - 2012-05-03 20:55:08 UTC
I think the general consensus is that most players would agree with accounts which were never activated (never anything but trial) getting deleted after 5+ years. If this'll ever happen or not would be up to CCP.
Andoni Cane
Game of Drones
The Initiative.
#6 - 2012-05-03 20:55:56 UTC
I'm not really worried about getting the character name in question, i can think of somthing else easy enough but i am wondering more along the lines of should CCP begin looking at reopening some of these names in the future? What will names in another 10 years look like?
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-05-03 21:04:19 UTC
yes delete old names of accounts not subbed.
but change them to "eveplayer4u328470340" or something if they come back make them pick a new name.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-05-03 21:12:11 UTC
best name ive found so far thats been taken is

yourmumtakesbrutor


Look it up its real.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Duvida
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-05-03 21:28:42 UTC
I think there are some deep database issues associated with deleting and recycling character names.

Given CCP's tight schedule with a reduced staff, and unfortunately, history of not allowing the staff to complete projects, I'd be wary of them pursuing this kind of thing anyway. The unintended consequences could be ugly with this kind of database project.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#10 - 2012-05-03 21:31:12 UTC
In EVE when you die your name dies to.

His name was Robert Paulson.
His name was Robert Paulson.
His name was Robert Paulson.
His name was Robert Paulson.
His name was Robert Paulson.
His name was Robert Paulson.

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Large Collidable Object
morons.
#11 - 2012-05-03 21:45:05 UTC
mxzf wrote:
I think the general consensus is that most players would agree with accounts which were never activated (never anything but trial) getting deleted after 5+ years. If this'll ever happen or not would be up to CCP.



I think that would be a wise approach. No money - RL currency or isk - were ever involved with the account, so it could be deleted - otherwise people could always claim that they invrsted ressources into it.

On the other hand, people show an impressive lack of creativity when creating their characters.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Holy One
Privat Party
#12 - 2012-05-03 22:11:07 UTC
Andoni Cane wrote:
What will names in another 10 years look like?


P much as they do now: a combination of Russenglish and Klingon

:)
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#13 - 2012-05-03 22:12:54 UTC
I want to be able to give CCP 4 PLEXes and they just delete whomever I want, active or not, and give me their name.

I think I'd make a better The Mittani than he does.

Mr Epeen Cool
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#14 - 2012-05-03 22:17:30 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
mxzf wrote:
I think the general consensus is that most players would agree with accounts which were never activated (never anything but trial) getting deleted after 5+ years. If this'll ever happen or not would be up to CCP.



I think that would be a wise approach. No money - RL currency or isk - were ever involved with the account, so it could be deleted - otherwise people could always claim that they invrsted ressources into it.

On the other hand, people show an impressive lack of creativity when creating their characters.


agree on both points

especially the 2nd... if it's already taken (sometimes many times over) it's not very original

theres even a morgantaa out there, I mean come on... it's a terrible name already
Leemi Sobo
#15 - 2012-05-03 22:21:16 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
On the other hand, people show an impressive lack of creativity when creating their characters.


yea, i see what you mean P
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-05-03 22:34:05 UTC
That name you think is really cool isn't.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#17 - 2012-05-03 22:34:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
Morganta wrote:

especially the 2nd... if it's already taken (sometimes many times over) it's not very original


I think that is only a problem with corp/alliance tickers. In times were every mission runner has his one-man alliance, it becomes increasingly hard to find a decent ticker. The Naming system was opened up with the allowance of a space in the first name (that ws when LCO was created), but alliance and corp tickers would really benefit from additional space/symbols allowed.


(Fun fact: i thought moronsdot would be a fun corp name because only morons lacking creativity would pick a corpname with a dot in the name, so the dot underlines the corp name as being moronic.
Some time after that, I checked for the availability of the name 'morons' without a dot - turned out there was a never played NPC alt with that name...)
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Lady Aja
#18 - 2012-05-03 22:37:45 UTC
many of the inactive characters as you put them are really deleted characters. back in 200.5/5 i easily remember names not being recycled for others to use after i bio massed em.
where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#19 - 2012-05-03 22:41:27 UTC
If they delete the names, CCP are effectively saying to the old customer "BOG OFF, WE DONT WANT YOU TO COME BACK; KEEP YOUR MONEY". Frankly it is business suicide it isn't as iff CCP are rolling in money and great business planning, they don't have the money (after loans and operating expenses out of their pre-tax revenue) to do this kind of arrogant thinking. They tried it with Incarna, look where that got em. Layoffs :)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#20 - 2012-05-03 22:54:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
With the third word opened up in naming schemes, I think it is a mark of shame upon YOURSELF when you manage to accidentally stumble upon a name that was already taken.
Chances are high it would have been a lame name anyway. It's better that it's taken by an inactive rather than see it fly around laming things up.

In fact, not only would I keep all names of not-biomassed characters permanently occupied, I would even go so far as including biomassed ones into the list of names that are forbidden.
As a start.
Then run a modified bayesian filter to ALSO FORBID NAMES THAT ARE TOO SIMILAR to existing names and a long list of relatively well known fantasy and sci-fi characters PLUS stuff too similar to but not identical to any word from the list of proper English words.
So if somebody has a name like "Death Master Joe", I would allow "Death Master James", but I would forbid "Deth Mastah -anything-" (too close to proper English words but not properly spelled) and "Death Master Joe123" (too similar to existing name) and also "xXxDeathMasterxXx" (lameness filter, activate!). Similarly, I want to see no "Spider Man", "Wolverine", "Legolas", "Captain Kirk" nor "Darth Vader" either.

In fact, while we're at it, why do we even allow numbers ? Eh, I'll let that slide, for now.

Bottom line : we need to restrict even more names, not open up those that used to be taken.
Stop being so unoriginal, dammit !

...

Heck, I'd probably even reject my own current name right now for not being "proper namey" enough (what's with the single letter there, huh?) and make myself add some more letters.

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