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Issues thread for the new font on SiSi

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#61 - 2011-10-01 01:02:14 UTC
Q (QU) and O (OH) are still one and the same, basically. Capital letters, that is.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Vestor
Magma Planetary Investigation
#62 - 2011-10-01 01:25:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Vestor
Krispy Dingo wrote:
Problems with the readout for Shield/Armour/Hull.
http://krispydingo.com/images/readout_issues.jpg
[...]

If I may recycle Krispy's imagery, I'd like to point out that interpunction is near impossible to see in many places, e.g. the Security level and the time.

Also, the character spacing (horizontal width between chars) is excessive. My overview needs to be nearly fullscreen@ 1920x1440 to be able to see name, speed and traversal columns (ok I'm exaggerating but not a lot)

"... the what button... oh god I didn't even know that existed. BRB." CCP FoxFour | Game Designer | Team True Grit
Absent Sentry
#63 - 2011-10-01 01:47:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Absent Sentry
(almost?) all new text has no shadowing, whether "in space" or inside any given UI element. This makes it anywhere from difficult to impossible to read text against lighter backgrounds, including certain skyboxes. For an extreme example, here the text for a Cynosural Field I against its own effect:

http://i.imgur.com/KfkFU.png

Note how the bracket itself retains its shadow and is therefore still visible.
Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2011-10-01 01:51:03 UTC
in my character sheet

i go to COMBAT LOG

Then look at losses (yes Regan has been killed) Ugh

Each item overlaps the next one in the list.



Windows 7 - 64
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5770 vid card

Cheers

Regan
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#65 - 2011-10-01 02:16:23 UTC
Honestly, the new font gives me headaches and makes me a little nauseous after a while.

Also needs some work on scale. Some elements of the UI don't need to be quite as large as they are while others are perhaps a tad too small.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
ISquishWorms
#66 - 2011-10-01 02:19:32 UTC
I prefer the old font, I find this new one harder to read which I don't understand because it is bigger.

‘No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh’.
JackStraw56
Run Like an Antelope
#67 - 2011-10-01 03:53:36 UTC
Honestly don't see the advantage to this new font. I agree with the guy who said it looks like a 2001 linux distro font. Preferred the old one.
Rhaegor Stormborn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2011-10-01 03:57:32 UTC
New font is really bad. Way too much spacing. Way too big. I would stay with the old rather than the new. Just use a standard font like Arial or Times New Roman. Really, it looks like crap.
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#69 - 2011-10-01 04:53:09 UTC
Scan button in dscan window has the c and a REALLY REALLY close together.
Psychophantic
#70 - 2011-10-01 04:57:18 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
I just leave this here


Do not want.
Handsome Hussein
#71 - 2011-10-01 05:02:25 UTC
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
I just leave this here

This pretty much sums up the experience for me. The new font looks great, very readable compared to the old, but sizing is a big issue. Especially on the overview.

Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.
Gregor Palter
#72 - 2011-10-01 06:27:32 UTC
I don't really like the new font, somehow it's just awkward to read.

Excuses are the refuge of the weak.

Psychophantic
#73 - 2011-10-01 07:55:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Psychophantic
Grey Stormshadow wrote:
I just leave this here


The current font looks better in all situations. There is still difficulty in telling Q and O apart. Multiple zeros look worse. I will have to give up more space to enlarge overview, drone, fleet, watchlist, and chat tabs.
NekoKitten
Neko Industry 'n' PvE
#74 - 2011-10-01 11:32:25 UTC
In my opinion, the font is too big. Make it resizable and please give me an option to use the old font instead. And it looks too .. mmm .. how can I say this .. 1980's. Very retro. Maybe a bit too retro ;)
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#75 - 2011-10-01 11:34:53 UTC
Hooray! CCP finally addressing a much-needed and long-overdue issue!

...

Are you feeling okay, CCP? Not that I'm complaining, mind you...

http://www.wormholes.info
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#76 - 2011-10-01 13:05:44 UTC
Q needs some work.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2011-10-01 13:55:41 UTC
Really ugly font that doesnt fit the game at all, bad work ccp.
cmaxx
Outside Context Solutions
#78 - 2011-10-01 14:34:48 UTC
TBH, Using Microsoft Windows' 'Terminal' at '6' pts would work better than the proposed new font as shown today.

Freakily there are almost no better-formed, readable fonts with the same density, anywhere. as Terminal 6.

If you've not already, do check out http://keithdevens.com/wiki/ProgrammerFonts as programmers have much the same need for highly-readable, compact fonts that make the most out of available screen estate while preserving critical distinctions between similar characters.

Sadly I don't think Terminal or (m)any programming fonts have full sets of non-English characters. Sad

Anyway, I think there's much to be said about cribbing from Terminal, or the smaller XTerm (fixedsys) fonts, or some of those programmer fonts, and then extending to forrin.

It's hard work making good, working, attractive fonts, and I have high hopes.
Cynika
Polisz Produkszyn Korporejszyn
#79 - 2011-10-01 14:53:42 UTC
Basicly... I hate the new font look. Glad I can say which one is 0 or O but why does it have to be so ugly. And so big ( I had to make my OV 20% widther to even see same information I had there before) - no, not everybody can play in 1920xsomething. And it's so 8-bit. I feel like playing on my Commodore again.
ISquishWorms
#80 - 2011-10-01 15:41:33 UTC
Cynika wrote:
Basicly... I hate the new font look. Glad I can say which one is 0 or O but why does it have to be so ugly. And so big ( I had to make my OV 20% widther to even see same information I had there before) - no, not everybody can play in 1920xsomething. And it's so 8-bit. I feel like playing on my Commodore again.



I play in 1920x1200 but still prefer the old font it is more readable than this new one for some reason. Hopefully CCP will give us a choice and we can still use the original font if we so choose.

‘No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh’.