Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I could get behind this idea... but I'd be cautious. Missiles ALWAYS hit so long as they are in range and one of the few ways to mitigate missile damage is through small sig and/or speed.

wow, so only 3 missile pilots in eve feeling left out .. especially now since drones get a damage mod

Well, missiles don't use cap, but the boats they fit on have been designed to factor that in, and turrets also have skills to counter their cap use.

I don't think missiles need another damage mod either, i'm fine with bcu's.

As far as defender missiles, I'm going to be super pissed if CCP doesn't remove them from the game. The reason I say this is because CCP is changing tracking disruptors to be weapon disruptors. They're now going to effect missiles as well.
So if defenders are still in game when this happens, I'm gonna flip cause we'll have two counters.

Tracking disruptor just slows down the tracking of a gun, if you are not a fast ship, then it doesn't help you. Therefore it doesn't have any affect on BS v BS fights. If CCP fixes defender missiles, then it diminishes damage regardless of all other factors. So, that is kind of different.

Actually, the way I see it... Target Painters = Tracking Computers
They do pretty much the same thing, just in very different ways.

When I saw this idea I thought of something along the lines of a "Rigor/Flare Mod."
But like I said in my first post... best to be careful with this as missiles can't be "speed tanked" quite the same way turrets can be

For example: an interceptor can basically "speed tank" a Harbinger at range with few problems... against a "standard" HML Drake it will have to bug out as it will take a fair bit of damage over time despite its small sig radius and speed.

Also for disclosure... I can BARELY use missiles. However I have been on the receiving end of them more times than I care to count (a HML Nano-Drake is just all kinds of nasty).

Welcome to the party m8



Similar, but no.

Turrets and missiles rely on different stats to do damage.

Turrets rely on chance to hit and tracking (how fast the gun turns relative to the angular velocity of the target.)

Missiles rely on chance to hit (which is most often 100%) but missile "tracking" and the damage they do is split between the target's sig rad relative to the missile's exp rad AND the target's velocity relative to the missile's exp velocity.

Target painters will increase a turret's chance to hit while tracking computers can make each hit on a moving target do more damage. They also may increase the range of those turrets. Tracking enhancers do the same albeit less effectively.

Target painters help missiles by increasing the target's sig rad relative to the missile's exp rad. But they do nothing to diminish any disparity between the target' velocity and the missile's exp velocity. There is no module that can help missiles in this stat other than a webifier. There is also no module that gives missiles more range.

Target painters /= Tracking computers until the day they either slow target's down or increase a missile's exp velocity while also increasing missile range.

The more elegant solution might be for CCP to introduce such a module(s) especially in light of this:



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By that remarkably sound logic and due to the fact that all main weapons have a corresponding module to increase their tracking and range........

I expect we will see CCP introduce missile enhancement modules. Right?

You forgot about the optimal range disruption script. Tight orbit: tracking speed disruption; farther away: optimal range disruption. And a BS orbiting a BS at close range can have tracking issues, so throwing on a tracking disruption script could really mess with the target's ability to hit you.