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Just another Facebook style "i got more friends then you" game
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Mark Androcius
#1 - 2012-05-02 12:20:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Mark Androcius
I've been on the Singularity server for a few weeks now, it's nice, you can just go head to head with everyone and nobody gets pissed off at anyone, you can build ships for chump change and you just get more isk back from the insurance, then you ever needed to put it together.

Awesome.

However, i did make me realize something.
I have only once won a battle, literally only once.
Every other time, i either got killed because the ship i had to fight was several classes higher then me ( BS vs Dread for example ), or because i got outnumbered HEAVILY.

Now on that last bit there, about being outnumbered, it annoys me greatly ( not whining though ).
Every time i stand a chance of winning a fair fight, some other chaps warp in, target me and start firing away.

Of course, on SiSi it's all just fun and games ( although i must admit that for some, it's very serious somehow, which is pathetic ), but this kind of stuff also happens ( a lot of the time ) on Tranq, where it is much less fun and games and very much more frustration and anger ( for a lot of players ).


My point is, although i don't mind about this at all on SiSi, i have absolutely zero trouble, seeing how ridiculous and perhaps even unfair people might find it on Tranq.

Now perhaps it might be an idea, to make a little change in CONCORD response times, more people firing at you, means CONCORD arrives faster.

I know I'm going to get a lot of crap thrown at me for saying this, but i don't give a shyte.
If you had the balls and the skill to take someone on 1v1 and come out on top, well then 10 points to you, if you need 2 or 3 or even more mates to do it.... you're just pathetic and you deserve to be shot 1 nanosecond after opening fire.

Thank you for reading and good day.

https://androcius.wordpress.com
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-05-02 12:29:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
You are always outnumbered.

The fact that this is sisi makes it irrelevant.

Chances are people will not comes so easily to help if it was not on sisi but on Tran.

I also hate the fact that for some people sisi is not about testing but about risk free pvp as you make it sound.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#3 - 2012-05-02 12:30:17 UTC
Someone tried to kill your battleship in a dread? And they succeeded?

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Lexmana
#4 - 2012-05-02 12:35:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
The easiest way to win a fight is to outnumber your opponent. The hard way is to play solo. It is your choice how you chose to play but this is EVE and most people really don't like to lose fights.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-05-02 12:42:04 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:

I also hate the fact that for some people sisi is not about testing but about risk free pvp as you make it sound.


I know man, people having fun without grinding for money or buying PLEX, how awful.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#6 - 2012-05-02 12:57:50 UTC
Assuming your opponent is going to fight fair and honor any agreement is to lose before you engage.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#7 - 2012-05-02 13:31:23 UTC
1st rule of pvp club is you do not whine about pvp club

2nd rule of pvp club is YOU DO NOT WHINE ABOUT PVP CLUB

3rd rule - If someone dies or warps out, the fight is over

4th rule - Fights will go on as long as they have to

5th rule - If you expect a fair fight, you are already at a disadvantage

6th rule - Include smack talk and good fights

7th rule - You are not a pvp'r until you've received a hate tell

8th rule - If this is your first night, you have to fight.

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Mark Androcius
#8 - 2012-05-02 13:31:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Mark Androcius
Lexmana wrote:
The easiest way to win a fight is to outnumber your opponent. The hard way is to play solo. It is your choice how you chose to play but this is EVE and most people really don't like to lose fights.


Your argument is exactly what is the drive for most pirate style players, which at the same time, is exactly what i meant.
Maybe CCP should try to discourage many vs 1/few PvP in some sort of way and i think the CONCORD idea i proposed could actually help out a lot.

https://androcius.wordpress.com
Mark Androcius
#9 - 2012-05-02 13:33:37 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
1st rule of pvp club is you do not whine about pvp club

2nd rule of pvp club is YOU DO NOT WHINE ABOUT PVP CLUB

3rd rule - If someone dies or warps out, the fight is over

4th rule - Fights will go on as long as they have to

5th rule - If you expect a fair fight, you are already at a disadvantage

6th rule - Include smack talk and good fights

7th rule - You are not a pvp'r until you've received a hate tell

8th rule - If this is your first night, you have to fight.


So you're essentially saying, that 3 or more pirates attacking 1 Orca ( just for example ) and winning, automatically makes you a good PvP'r?

https://androcius.wordpress.com
Mark Androcius
#10 - 2012-05-02 13:37:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Mark Androcius
Cannibal Kane wrote:
You are always outnumbered.

The fact that this is sisi makes it irrelevant.


True, but that wasn't really what the post was/is about.


Cannibal Kane wrote:
Chances are people will not come so easily to help if it was not on sisi but on Tran.


Which makes it even worse on Tranq, cause the people attacking are usually already prepared to die, while the people that "could" defend, will only have more doubt

Cannibal Kane wrote:
I also hate the fact that for some people sisi is not about testing but about risk free pvp as you make it sound.


CCP has even setup an entire system on SiSi, just for this.
Edit: Duality is the server used for all the actual testing, SiSi is for fooling around and the mass tests every once in a while.


Anyway, nice seeing you on the forums every once in a while man, haven't seen you in game a lot lately.

https://androcius.wordpress.com
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-05-02 13:39:30 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:



Anyway, nice seeing you on the forums every once in a while man, haven't seen you in game a lot lately.



I am online everyday for a few hours. Might just be a timezone thing.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#12 - 2012-05-02 13:41:27 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
So you're essentially saying, that 3 or more pirates attacking 1 Orca ( just for example ) and winning, automatically makes you a good PvP'r?

Yes!

PvP in Eve isn't just about winning the fight, it is about avoiding the fights you can't win, and finding targets you can win against. If someone has the patience to hunt down and find an Orca that they can freely attack then that took some skill or patience.

Either that or the Orca pilot was really dumb.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#13 - 2012-05-02 13:42:42 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
I am online everyday for a few hours. Might just be a timezone thing.

Weren't you in sgt razor's corp? Think I remember you from before we moved rage alliance to low sec, how is razor nowadays?

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
I am Infinity
The Forsakened Few
We Forsakened Few
#14 - 2012-05-02 13:46:22 UTC
Dude it's the test server Lol
Mark Androcius
#15 - 2012-05-02 13:53:57 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Mark Androcius wrote:
So you're essentially saying, that 3 or more pirates attacking 1 Orca ( just for example ) and winning, automatically makes you a good PvP'r?

Yes!

PvP in Eve isn't just about winning the fight, it is about avoiding the fights you can't win, and finding targets you can win against. If someone has the patience to hunt down and find an Orca that they can freely attack then that took some skill or patience.

Either that or the Orca pilot was really dumb.


Hmmmm, a rather interesting and perhaps true way of looking at it.

By the way, i got shot by CONCORD last night for warp scrambling a target, perhaps i missed the update notes which stated this had become a crime? or does it have something to do with the system sec rating? ( not including low sec, cause i know CONCORD doesn't go there )

https://androcius.wordpress.com
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#16 - 2012-05-02 14:06:15 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
1st rule of pvp club is you do not whine about pvp club

2nd rule of pvp club is YOU DO NOT WHINE ABOUT PVP CLUB

3rd rule - If someone dies or warps out, the fight is over

4th rule - Fights will go on as long as they have to

5th rule - If you expect a fair fight, you are already at a disadvantage

6th rule - Include smack talk and good fights

7th rule - You are not a pvp'r until you've received a hate tell

8th rule - If this is your first night, you have to fight.


So you're essentially saying, that 3 or more pirates attacking 1 Orca ( just for example ) and winning, automatically makes you a good PvP'r?



Well I found your problem, you are trying to pvp with a orca.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-02 14:23:33 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Someone tried to kill your battleship in a dread? And they succeeded?



Sisi. Also, tracking dreads are ******* NASTY to fight in battleships.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#18 - 2012-05-02 14:49:54 UTC
Mark Androcius wrote:
So you're essentially saying, that 3 or more pirates attacking 1 Orca ( just for example ) and winning, automatically makes you a good PvP'r?


If you're not the orca pilot, it's certainly good PvP. Twisted

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#19 - 2012-05-02 14:54:04 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Someone tried to kill your battleship in a dread? And they succeeded?



Sisi. Also, tracking dreads are ******* NASTY to fight in battleships.

I'm gonna have to try that out at some point.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#20 - 2012-05-02 14:54:52 UTC
And to answer your question from earlier, no, that wasn't what I was saying, that is what you are saying, do us all a favor and don't speak for me. I have a preference for ships that shoot back so to me a good pvp fight is one you walk away from, a great pvp fight is one you crawl away from with 1 hit point left.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
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