EVE New Citizens Q&A

I need some rare ore for a ship i am building, i dont want to risk my retriever in 0.0 space, which ship could i use to mine in 0.0 something cheap thats easy to afford i was thinking of an exequror but i dont know, whats your advice?

You're FAR better off mining extra Trit, selling it, and buying the high-end minerals from the market. Mining in 0.0 alone isn't just risky, it's suicide if you don't really know what you're doing (and if you do really know what you're doing, then it's just dumb).

Just to give you a sense of scale.
The minimum refining amount for Bistot is 200 units.
Each unit is 15 m3.

So that's 3,200 m3s for one batch, otherwise you get nothing.

You'll get.
Megacyte 170
Pyerite 170
Zydrine 341

Good Luck

another option for you is to get lucky and find a grav site that has the ore you need. Be warned, good grav sites are very hard to scan down so if you dont have good scanning abilities I would suggest pairing up with someone that does.

Well first of all your retriever isn't going to tank even those belts rats, let alone players and even hulk has issues dealing with belt rats in 0.0 when fit properly for mining.

the lower the system sec status the more BS per spawn you get and I have seen as many as 4-5 BS in one spawn and no hulk is going to tank those alone.

Excellent point but I think that we are trying to get across the things to be vary of when mining outside of high sec. Also in whs if you want to mine rats do spawn and the frigs hit harder in whs then bs's in null but they don't respawn after they are killed.

Does you mining cruiser tank scramming frigs and battleship rats? Supposing of course that you get to your mining system of choice and that it's empty of locals.

This all really depends on what you are looking to do.



If you are in high sec ...

If all you need is a little Zydrine - then by all means - just buy it, or recycle some modules. Whatever's easier.

If you need a lot of Zydrine - then mine something else - sell that - and buy the Zydrine. Or - run missions - make money - and buy Zydrine.



Now - if what you want is an adventure ... one which may well get you blown up and podded ... then that is another matter entirely. Here - you're not really looking for ore - you're out to have some fun seeing what you can get away with.

I did that for a while in Lo Sec - and it was fun. I didn't make any money - but then I was just down there fooling around seeing what it was like. I got a little bit of rare minerals and some experience in Lo Sec operations. The experience was VASTLY more valuable than the ore. Then ... I had to go make some money - so I went back to mining in Hi Sec.



Now ... my experience in Lo Sec is NOT going to translate into a lot of great advice on how to survive in Null Sec. But I will mention a few things that helped me. There are also some Lo Sec survival guides out there which is where I got my info. In any case - practice what you are going to do in Hi Sec before going down there. You don't want to be fooling around trying to remember what to do while someone is trying to kill you ... Anyway - here's a few things to think about:

1) Keep an eye on Local - if someone comes into your system - you want to be thinking about what you're going to do about it.

2) Have Safe Spots already created. A safe spot is NOT some where between two celestials. You drop bookmarks (save location) between celestials - THEN - warp between THESE bookmarks to create your safe spots. Of course - mission space and locations which you scan down can provide even better ones - but - you can create Safe Spots between bookmarks you dropped between celestials - immediately.

3) Think about taking a cloak. Anything can use the crappy cloak. If you warp to a safe spot and cloak up they CAN NOT scan you down. If you just sit at a safe spot without a cloak - they can.

4) Get familiar with your Directional Scanner. If you see Combat Scanner Probes in the type category - someone is looking. Also - be aware that if they have Sisters Probes - that's going to be down in the 'S's - not up in the 'C's with the Combat Scanner Probes. I'm not the familiar with the Deep Space probes. The Core Scanner Probes won't show ships. Having your own scanning skills trained up is a plus too.

5) A mining Frigate is cheap - but - it's not that capable. it's only real advantage is that it might be better able to avoid a camp. Your Mining Cruiser is a much more capable ship - and - has enough high spots to fit that cloak. The Vexxor is the Gallente Mining Cruiser - it just gets bonuses for it's drones rather than for it's miners. Fitting out a small ship to scout ahead of your mining vessel checking for camps - and then going back to fetch the larger vessel might be a good idea.

6) Having your drone skills up is a plus too. They are the weapon of the miner.

7) Jaspet has Zydrine in it and can be found in .4 space. So - if it's Zydrine you're after - you don't have to go down to Null Sec looking for it. Look in the Ore Section of the User Guide to see what the different Ores contain. Yes - Arkonor has a LOT more Zydrine in it than Jaspet - but then you don't have to go down to Null Sec for Jaspet.

8) Now - for sustained operations in Low Sec, Null Sec or Worm Hole space - trying to go it alone is not going to work so well. So - for that - think about joining people who are already doing this. You could form your own corporation of course but ... trying to take a new corporation down to one of these places ... may not work as well ...

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:) this post is a bit old, it was made before i joined the corp, i also have two accounts i use the other one to mine.

tnx all for the advices