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[Proposal] PLEX FOR REMAP
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Disdaine
#41 - 2012-01-07 11:34:59 UTC
Supported.
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#42 - 2012-01-07 12:18:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkon Olacar
MataHarry wrote:
Thank you very much for your responses guys, some constructive, some not very, thank you non-the-less. Negative result is a result too.

What I would like to point out is that there seems to be bias in terms of what kind of people surf the forums. In other words, people who mainly surf the forum are th veterans who DO NOT want this change to happen, whereas most of the people with whom I spoke with and who wanted the change were more or less rookies. And rookies initially rarelly crawl through the forums - hence this group is underrepresented.


I am a rookie, but I am not mentally challenged. I am fully aware of the implications of my remap, I am aware of what the length of a year is, and I sought advice both from corpmates, the forum (through lurking and trawling through old posts) and evelopedia before making my choice. If I do suddenly do a U turn and completely rethink what direction I want my pilot to go in, I would be far more interested in relocating my skill points than another remap - although on a personal level I object to that as well, as I believe the choices you make should actually matter. If I do realise that my remap has been a big mistake, I still have another one remap gathering dust. Thats why newbs have two remaps, so they can muck one up and be able to redeem their pilot.

Being able to trade Plex for this is an advancement of real money trading, something Eve needs to avoid at all costs. I've seen what that leads to, when four of the top ten players spend a combined total of $6000 per month on a game - there is no way 98% of the players can compete with that. End result - the game is dying fast. One of the reasons I have taken up Eve is the lack of noticeable advantage that can be gained with real money trading, only a small amount of space barbie faggottry is currently present. Any move to expand the advantage gained with real money needs to be stamped on asap - once you open the pandora's box of real money trading for ingame advantage, the game is dead. It may stagger on for months, maybe even a year or two, but trust me - real money for ingame advantage will be the end of Eve.

But full credit to the OP for writing up the proposal so well. I'd much rather read a shocking idea eloquently written than a good idea full of butthurt.
Baaa Shakiel
Kinnah Incorporated
#43 - 2012-02-13 18:10:58 UTC
I don't like this. However I do support PLEX for SP reallocation.

The question then would be whether if the SP reallocation provides any significant ingame advantage rather than convenience. Can the vets comment on that.

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HK 47
Caldari Advanced Laboratory
#44 - 2012-02-13 19:04:51 UTC  |  Edited by: HK 47
Solo Player wrote:
A well-written proposal, yours.

Still, no.
Remaps added flexibility by making a basic element of the game, your character, an arbitrary thing that could be molded and remolded to suit the player's whim.
However, I firmly believe that it serves EVE as a game to have choices with meaningful consequences. Restricting players through such, as for examply through character generation, is good both for a competitive game and a virtual universe. If you wish to change your playstyle and need play along with the "best", whip out a new character or stick with your old one but be prepared to be patient.

Remapping once a year was bad enough. Allowing to do so at will makes choices mean even less. Some will remap for every skill they train in order to "optimize" their "progress".
In that perspective, PLEX for remap is also basically another pay4win mechanic. I don't care so much for those.



I support this. No Plex for remap.

Edit: I am also against Plex for SP reallocation.
You trained the skills for a reason once so you had your benefit. You made a decission that you want them
and now please live with it. We all have to. And I am proud of every single SP I have (yes, also for exhumer 5 which I haven't used for years).
Tidurious
Blatant Alt Corp
#45 - 2012-02-13 20:53:09 UTC
God-damn your inability to read! WTF can't people see that this is suggested OVER and OVER! It will be NO EVERY SINGLE TIME.

No plex for SP, for remaps, for re-allocations of SP, for SP catch-up, any of that bullshit.
LinearBurn Aideron
Hells legion
#46 - 2012-05-01 21:44:10 UTC
I would say remaps arent used at all for the first 30 days of a charcters life that would be my vote and up till 10m sp you can renmap for a plex after that you should know what you are doing and plan acordingly to the standard remap timer
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-05-01 22:38:44 UTC
LinearBurn Aideron wrote:
I would say remaps arent used at all for the first 30 days of a charcters life that would be my vote and up till 10m sp you can renmap for a plex after that you should know what you are doing and plan acordingly to the standard remap timer


Why do you foolish #%@%@$ people love to necro a thread thats obivous dead?

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LinearBurn Aideron
Hells legion
#48 - 2012-05-01 23:27:28 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
LinearBurn Aideron wrote:
I would say remaps arent used at all for the first 30 days of a charcters life that would be my vote and up till 10m sp you can renmap for a plex after that you should know what you are doing and plan acordingly to the standard remap timer


Why do you foolish #%@%@$ people love to necro a thread thats obivous dead?



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Perkone
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-05-06 15:23:45 UTC
Ok, i'll support.

Not that i really want this, but i think that we're be allowed to do remap for a plex sooner or later. I prefer sooner.

But it's should be multiple PLEXes.

And maybe price of such remap will increase each time the player uses this feature.

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
Temmu Guerra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2012-05-07 18:24:00 UTC
Still comes down as a pay2win mechanic and everytime something is close to that I say no.
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