Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Greetings. It doesn't make sense to me. I have spent a lot of time and isk in getting my faction standings where they are today so that I can access all missions within that faction. The ability to place a POS in high sec has it's benefits too, but benefits don't end there. I wouldn't like this taken away unless I get some equivalent benefit in exchange. That's my 2 cents...

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Endless argument from tradition..

It makes NO SENSE.. That say EVE University or silimar ancient organisations have to empty their corp to setup player owned structures.. If you honestly believe that makes sense, mechanics wise or rp wise three is something wrong in this game beyond repair..

I know the mechnics quite well and understnad them and they are one of the major phail train features to protect server load. If the servers can handle the strain now I will bet you ccp is going to do this in a near future.. If not the dreams mentioned by both Soundwave and Torfi about POS for all eve players is meaningless.

Servers can handle it now, and we have TIDI.. So I am expecting some huge changes.. All the little big things, we have not been able to get until now..

Having a POS in high security empire space SHOULD have standing requirements. It would be weird if some random dude who is hated by Minmatar, puts up a POS in minmatar space. It goes even against logic.

Having a POS in empire space is a BONUS from the high standing you have with them.

Bonus table: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Standings_mechanics#Quick_Standings_Reference_Table

Having this big bonus removed from Bonus table, what does that leave to Standing mechanic in general? Almost nothing, it cancels the entire idea of standings in the game, because POS is one of the biggest reasons why people get standings at all.

Sure there are these high standing corp sellers etc. Maybe it's a feature as a profession to sell POS solutions for people. Getting profit from his high standings. Maybe they will change it soon, but I belive they just have to change a bit the mechanic works, so it wont be acessable so easily to people. Increase the standing requirement?

But I belive standings must stay for sure, it generates more "individuality" in the game. People who bother to get high standings get rewards, people who don't, then well... they come here whine on forums like you? :P

My 2 cents.

I dont disagree entirely.. but hear me out for a second..

Current standing grind is very old player biased, and can potentially set off a lot of new players. The work arounds for this is no solution and its basically unfair to those that grinded "legit"..

However if they remove the current standing demand, and the "price tag" and demand shifts onto the LP market via starbase charters, the the standing grind still means a lot to the cost of running a POS.

There should ofc still be something like a minimum of good standing, so around 5.

All the benefits of standing would shift onto other features and mainly be around taxing and fees.

So everyone would benefit, old and new players. The really interesting thing would be that more space would get populated and contested. That would add game play to all of EVE.

Also it might make it possible to better nerf npc services and npc corps as they are.. Since the motivation to form even small corps would increase a lot..

Yes as the rep from EVE-U points out everyone is using the same work arounds. Holding companies and standing boosting services. I honestly dont believe that can be said to be "working as intended" its a rather complicated and clamped together system, based mainly on eve code history.

When you war dec you want targets, you dont want members to easily be able to bail and jump into protected npc corps. This mechanic is getting looked at and tweaked, the exact same can be said about POS mechanics and holding corps.

As said this issue is def not new, its been brought up time and time again, and all manner of complicated solutions suggested..

I am merely pointing out there is one that is extremely simple. Just remove the demand and let it shift onto the player driven economy and ecology. The benefits will remain and even make a higher impact, than before. Since say EVE-U had 25 POS but their average standing would grant a benefit on small groups that did not dilute their standing. Thus the benefits from manhours and logistics would be levelled out a bit by persistence and small group of trusted friends..

In such a scenario I do think agent hand outs need to be boosted a bit to those with good standing. So you got more LP with standing as well as true sec and social skills. The result would again support the loss to the "nerf"..