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Trading with WH POS owners
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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#1 - 2012-05-01 13:10:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinstar Colton
If one wanted to trade with a POS owner in WH space, what tools are available to facilitate such trade? Can you set up contracts (both item exchange or courier) based on a WH pos?

And by trade, I don't mean just casually handing over goods to a fellow corp mate. I mean working with a corporation as a neutral merchant and exchanging goods and ISK in a secure manner to minimize the ability for either party to screw over the other.

I'm familiar with the traditional tools for trade, but I'm not sure how those apply in WH's and/or with POSes. I'm just looking for a broad proof of concept response here.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Suni Khan
#2 - 2012-05-01 13:11:43 UTC
jetcan.

You can not conract or something similar.

jonnykefka
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
#3 - 2012-05-01 13:45:25 UTC
There's really no mechanics for it at all. Your best bet is probably to use a convenient link to K-space and conduct your business there.
Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-01 14:56:06 UTC
The only real way that I can think of would be placing things inside of an anchored secure container with a password, and providing the password after you recieve isk. This however is still fraught with chances to scam, because you could still just not provide the password, or you could provide the password and not be provided the isk. All of which leads back to you would be better off using a neutral 3rd party or going back to highsec and using contracts there.

-Arazel
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#5 - 2012-05-01 15:00:55 UTC
Understood. So this leads me to my next question.

If you are a WH POS owner and some person whom you do not know pops into the WH and informs you via local that there is a wormhole leading to X system currently open and that you have X goods available (say fuel blocks) there, how likely are you to send someone out to do business? (Assuming you actually need what is being advertised).

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Ivory Kantenu
Apotheosis.
#6 - 2012-05-01 15:04:17 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
Understood. So this leads me to my next question.

If you are a WH POS owner and some person whom you do not know pops into the WH and informs you via local that there is a wormhole leading to X system currently open and that you have X goods available (say fuel blocks) there, how likely are you to send someone out to do business? (Assuming you actually need what is being advertised).


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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#7 - 2012-05-01 15:06:33 UTC
Is there any way for the WH dweller to verify that the destination system is high sec?
Of course I would not expect anyone to go on my word alone.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Halin Damal
Moderari Animo
#8 - 2012-05-01 15:10:20 UTC
No there isn't a way to verify it other than scan it down yourself.
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#9 - 2012-05-01 15:13:06 UTC
Huh. Well there goes that business idea.

Thank you everyone for your constructive advice.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#10 - 2012-05-01 15:26:54 UTC
You could try convoing the owners are doing race via contract in kspace, but you'd better be willing to pay a decent price. Wormhole dwellers have no problem scanning down a route out, so keep that in mind.
Yellow Planet
RONA Corporation
#11 - 2012-05-01 16:40:20 UTC
Nothing is 100% safe but I have often thought of this myself.

The way I was thinking of doing this is setting up a Small POS anchored but not online and has no offensive structures.
When it is time for a trade you online the POS, give the other party the password, make your trade and move on. Not having offensive structures lets the other party scan it and see the POS composition.

It is a low investment, on-lines quickly, and gives a relatively safe place to Jet a can in a temporary location. When it is offline and someone is board enough to shoot it who cares … it’s a small POS.

I have done a bit of WH trading and I always hate the Jet Can in space method.
Kakaka Bukandara
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-05-01 16:56:35 UTC
Recommendation: meet at a highsec station, trade there.

Ambiguity resolved.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-05-01 17:01:08 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
Understood. So this leads me to my next question.

If you are a WH POS owner and some person whom you do not know pops into the WH and informs you via local that there is a wormhole leading to X system currently open and that you have X goods available (say fuel blocks) there, how likely are you to send someone out to do business? (Assuming you actually need what is being advertised).


Pretty much anyone who actually tries talking in WH local starts the hunting process.