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What can a T1 fit rifter reasonably expect to fight? Edit: and win, solo
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Desi Valeri Membrum Virile Likes received: 30	#1 - 2012-05-01 08:04:14 UTC \| Edited by: Desi Valeri As title. I understand a great deal of it rests on pilot capabilities, I'm just looking for a rough answer. With rigs, without rigs, with solid core skills, or with terrible two-three week old skills...any answer you can give me would be greatly helpful.


Desi Valeri Membrum Virile Likes received: 30	#2 - 2012-05-01 12:15:26 UTC :(

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TWHC Assistant Likes received: 228	#3 - 2012-05-01 12:19:08 UTC It is not about winning a fight or making kill mails. You will lose a lot of fights. It is about winning experience and improving oneself. You will make plenty of experience.

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Alara IonStorm Likes received: 5,477	#4 - 2012-05-01 12:20:39 UTC \| Edited by: Alara IonStorm It can take most other T1 Frigates. Long Range Gun fit ships without Webs and PvE Ships if you can take out there Drones. Besides that fail fit ships mostly.

Perkone Caldari State 71
Darthewok Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 71	#5 - 2012-05-01 12:57:58 UTC T2 fit and max skilled and flown: T1 frigates, Some inties, Some faction frigates. T1 fit and 2-3 week skilled: Other T1 frigates that are T1 fit and 2-3 week skilled. (What else do you expect?) CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Ministry of War Amarr Empire 208
Lunkwill Khashour Ministry of War Amarr Empire Likes received: 208	#6 - 2012-05-01 13:50:16 UTC T2 frigs, most inties if you can catch them, faction frigs are hard for a Rifter. Cruisers and BC's who don't have anti frig defense. A low SP Rifter is a danger for low SP frigs and cruisers/bc's without frig defense. However, low SP generally means poorly flown/fitted aswell which on the Rifter makes a huge difference.

Jiska Ensa

Estrale Frontiers

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#7 - 2012-05-01 14:10:05 UTC

I dunno about cruisers and bc's, if you get within web range you're pretty much screwed. I've killed interceptors orbiting my Harbinger before (mind you that was scram, web, and neut working there).

But yah, t1 frigates, some interceptors (the speed ones, not the DPS ones), and crap-fit t2 and faction frigs. That's about it, and frankly, that's plenty. Multiple rifters can easily take down anything up to a battleship, though.

Alara IonStorm

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#8 - 2012-05-01 14:34:15 UTC

Jiska Ensa wrote:

Multiple rifters can easily take down anything up to a battleship, though.

This is really there big sell. A gang of Rifters can sweep 3 times as many systems as bigger ships in the same amount of time and pick targets / escape from anything they don't like.

Ten to twenty Rifters is about 1000-2000 DPS.

Find one or two Battlecruisers or a Solo Ship alone and you drop it in less then a minute.

Frigate swarms are incredibly dangerous if you are caught of guard and they are hard to pin down.

Liang Nuren

No Salvation

Divine Damnation

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#9 - 2012-05-01 14:48:34 UTC

Alara IonStorm wrote:

Jiska Ensa wrote:

Multiple rifters can easily take down anything up to a battleship, though.

I saw someone do this to a Scorpion once. It turned out hilariously when they found out the Scorp had 6 smarties in the highs...

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Liang Nuren

No Salvation

Divine Damnation

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#10 - 2012-05-01 14:53:40 UTC

Desi Valeri wrote:

As title. I understand a great deal of it rests on pilot capabilities, I'm just looking for a rough answer.

With rigs, without rigs, with solid core skills, or with terrible two-three week old skills...any answer you can give me would be greatly helpful.

The point of a T1 frigate is to try something crazy and see if you can win. I'd avoid ships with obvious frigate defenses (Vexors, Caracals, Arbitrators, etc) but you might get lucky against anything else. Medium/large ships without a tracking bonus and a small drone bay are particularly susceptible to solo Rifters.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Plus 10 NV 1,515
Cearain Plus 10 NV Likes received: 1,515	#11 - 2012-05-01 16:17:56 UTC You can reasonably expect to get blapped by a destroyer. Good luck finding any more vanilla frigates looking for pvp after the destroyer buff. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club Domain Research and Mining Inst. 298
Griznatch Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club Domain Research and Mining Inst. Likes received: 298	#12 - 2012-05-01 17:30:39 UTC Without good skills and an adept pilot? Very little im afraid. With good core skills and an adept pilot? Almost anything that doesn't have drones or guns that track well. Yea even Battleships and the like with buffer tanks (excluding high recharge shield fits), if you have the time. I used to have a clever sig but I lost it.

Kahega Amielden

Rifterlings

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#13 - 2012-05-01 17:56:00 UTC

you -can- get solo kills in a t1-fit rifter, it will likely just require finding another T1 frigate (which are sadly somewhat rare lately, hopefully the Inferno changes will help that) or getting lucky. However, the latter is very possible. I've seen battleships, recons, etc. killed in solo/duo t1-fit rifters.

If you don't want to explode ten times for every kill you get (though each kill will probably be hilarious), you might be better off flying in a gang.

Doomheim 171
Fleet Warpsujarento Doomheim Likes received: 171	#14 - 2012-05-01 18:28:59 UTC What you can catch will kill you, what you can kill will evade you, and if, by some miracle, you manage to tackle someone weak enough to die to you he'll have half a dozen friends in the next system.

The Graduates 2,921
FT Diomedes The Graduates Likes received: 2,921	#15 - 2012-05-01 21:19:43 UTC I had a lot of luck luring Interceptors and EAFs off gate camps. Easy to kill them with a skilled Rifter if the fight starts in web scram range. It requires patience and preparation to avoid unnecessary deaths. CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.