EVE General Discussion

Old topic I know, I started something in a public channel that devolved into this and I heard some interesting (read: funny) definitions Id never heard before.

"Me > I thought carebears were non social ppl that shot rocks and rats and missioned and didnt like PVP"

"several people > Wrong"

Ill admit at this point I was quite surprised given Id never been told straight out I was wrong on asking what that was before (like there was a given SET answer to it - I realize there really isnt)

"Me > lol then again the carebear definition changes depending on the person you talk to"

"guy > Wrong"

Again - surprised cause the above is pretty much accepted fact
then come the definitions:

"carebears appreciate ALL ASPECTS of eve, and don't just get hard-ons from pew pew'ing"

"To 0.0 ppl carebear is anyone that lives in highsec, to high sec theyre the ppl that just do PVE, to Goons they seem to be a combination of that and all miners."
"and to WH goers its anybody that looks at local." - there is no local in WH but yeah lol
"or people that dont live in WH"

"carebears are players who usually don't do PVP but have the skills for combat and could hold their own in a fight, likely kick your ass. Carebears have the teeth, the balls to back it up. They're not psycho teenage PVP speedfreaks, but they can kick your ass anyway" -- Ill admit that was a new one

"a better definition of carebear is anyone that tries to make money by any means but theft + merc activity"

"Carebear is someone who does PvE"

"Carebears tend to be 'knights in shining armor' - they will rescue you and they have the muscle to do it, in this game anyway"

"Carebears tend to be whiny, stubborn and risk averse"

"I always understood carebears as players who enjoyed supporting others in one way or another. Meaning it could be anyone from resource-oriented types like harvesters, crafters up to tanks or even guild leaders."

Dinner.

Broadly speaking, a carebear is some one who does not play Eve the way you want them to so that you can get easy kills.

Mostly people who live in the uber safe space of 0.0, with the multiple intel channels the biggest risk is the odd awoxer.

I guess it's a different definition for everyone - for me, it's risk averse people who care way too much about losing their assets, involving:

- People whining to nerf the posibility of what they call 'non-concensual PvP' (imho there is no such thing in eve - you agree to all types of PvP when you launch eve - even when you never undock and do station trade all day long).

- People so scared of combat PvP they wont even try to defend themselves.

- Greedy people whining they can't fit their hulks for max profit.

- People overly concerned with their K/D ratios (yes - a guy doing industry in lowsec and taking his hauler through there has way more balls than the 50 weekend warriors camping a gate in their DRAEKS).

In general, I wouldn't say it has much to do with the security rating of systems - the old NC had some of the worst carebaears ever to play this game.

love when they eject an give you a free ship

-ppl who QQ about a ship so much CCP has to nerf the tank of said ship just cause the QQers cant kill it - or "it takes too long qqqqqq" (DRAEK - well unless as with the new ones BCs actually ARENT meant to HAVE tanks)

Careturtle ?

The implication is that the carebear is the one who benefits from all of that, without ever putting in the :effort:.

These are Care Bears.

Most of you are abusing a protected copyright. An internet lawyer will be with you shortly...

:)

Carebears are risk adverse, here are a couple examples

1. People who don't like getting shot by titan XL guns, ask for a nerf
2. People who shoot hulks using destroyers, because battleships are non-insurable
3. People who complain highsec is too safe, but cry when CONCORD is buffed after finding loopholes
4. People who complain incursions produce too much isk, but want to shoot people instead of competing for isk
5. People....certain conditions apply advantages to themselves...not to others but not ok when others ask the same in return

No matter how you whine it...one side doesn't like something but can't cope when other side does something to them but then other side complains when the one side ups them (<-- too confusing, but nobody likes it when the other has the advantage in something but neither side likes it when the other side gains the advantage). We are all carebears, doesn't matter if you pull the trigger since you are throwing away the ship or just sitting in a belt.

How about

"Fly what you can afford to replace, but don't admit that you are risk adverse to losing something of value so long as you can smash up something of value to the other guy - - maybe its time CCP creates skill point loss when ever your ship is destroyed since isk / items are replacable but time isn't "