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light dreads next patch?
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Haas Tabris
Peace Love n Harmony
#1 - 2012-05-01 02:22:39 UTC

Been thinking about this one for a while, especially after the tier 3 bc's came out that could fit BS weapons....

WHAT IF there were a "light dread" class of ships that was about twice the size and cost of a tier 3 battleship and could fit 2 dread-class weapons but could only fit battleship armor and shield mods? And WHAT IF this ship had a jump drive AND could also jump through gates? And WHAT IF the skills to fly them were not that much more expensive than the BS skillbooks?

I think this would be uber cool. And tons of fun. And might just shake up lowsec and 0.0 fights a bit. But that's me.

Any thoughts? Comments? Trolls?
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#2 - 2012-05-01 02:24:25 UTC
I've heard worse ideas, but also having a JD would be overkill.
Mirima Thurander
#3 - 2012-05-01 02:24:59 UTC
no you can bash high sec pos's with BS fleets like the rest of us

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
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#4 - 2012-05-01 02:27:18 UTC
I'm on-board w/ the light dread. Seems like a natural evolution. There's certainly a roll... glass cannon BS sounds good.

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Nylith Empyreal
Sutar Rein
#5 - 2012-05-01 03:05:25 UTC
Along with a frigate class that can use mediums right? Big smile Personally I wouldn't mind a bs, but you have to admit this particular ship style would be kind of cheesey to use over and over again.

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-05-01 03:10:03 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
Actually, this gives me an interesting idea.

Maybe a light dread could be a battleship that can only fit a single dread sized weapon. AND 4 battleship sized weapons. It would only be useful for pvp, but it would be a cheaper way to bring newer players into a siege battle?

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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#7 - 2012-05-01 03:30:21 UTC
The sensible approach would be to build on what we already have. 'New' tier battlecruiser has battleship guns, so a new tier battleship with capital guns seems plausible. A frigate with cruiser guns next!? 0_0

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
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#8 - 2012-05-01 03:34:19 UTC
Well to be fair with frigs they can really be pretty powerful already. Assault frigs and so-forth. Not sure there's a meaningful roll...

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Culmen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-01 04:01:02 UTC
Or perhaps a BS with a BS sized siege module.

Does everything the Dread sized one does, just on a BS.

So a few light dread battleships warp into on a Dickstar POS in high sec, hit seige and go to town.

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Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-05-01 04:06:29 UTC
Seige Mode for battleships would be awesome.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-01 04:11:38 UTC
I would be more for a dread gun using battleship than a siege mode battleship. To me it seems more useful depending on how they are set up, possibly more dead titans we could hope for.

Well, maybe siege mode battleship would be interesting, entire fleet stuck in lockdown then hotdropped, would be a turkeyshoot.

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Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-05-01 04:21:02 UTC
tier 3 BC's was over the line. Next we'll have tankless titans with 8 doomsdays.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#13 - 2012-05-01 04:22:03 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
no you can bash high sec pos's with BS fleets like the rest of us

We have this FC, he loves shooting structures and we're not taking about using X-Large guns either. Oh no, he loves shooting structures the HARD way, with battleships or even drakes. Soon you will fear:

DaBigRedBoat

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EVE Stig
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-05-01 04:50:14 UTC
Gogela wrote:
I'm on-board w/ the light dread. Seems like a natural evolution. There's certainly a roll... glass cannon BS sounds good.


No... BCs arent SUPPOSED to have tanks.
Thats the the new ones didnt have em.
Thats why theyre taking the Drake's away.

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#15 - 2012-05-01 04:55:38 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
no you can bash high sec pos's with BS fleets like the rest of us

We have this FC, he loves shooting structures and we're not taking about using X-Large guns either. Oh no, he loves shooting structures the HARD way, with battleships or even drakes. Soon you will fear:

DaBigRedBoat


Tell him to, "Please remove all the needless abandoned POS in highsec," if he likes it so much. I'm sure many more than I would appreciate it greatly, but not enough to give you 500 mil. Smile
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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
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#16 - 2012-05-01 15:33:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
EVE Stig wrote:
Gogela wrote:
I'm on-board w/ the light dread. Seems like a natural evolution. There's certainly a roll... glass cannon BS sounds good.


No... BCs arent SUPPOSED to have tanks.
Thats the the new ones didnt have em.
Thats why theyre taking the Drake's away.

You are on crack. What about the hurricane? BCs have lots of tank for T1 and it is fine... they fit right in there between BS and cruisers. What are you suggesting the Nighthawk and Slipnir get their tanks removed too? That's not even an argument. The new ones don't have tanks simply because of their new DPS potential. It's the give and take we call balance. There shouldn't be a WTF PWN machine... I know some Dram pilots that regularly slaughter BCs. The Drake is fine it just takes time to kill... that's why they are so widely used in blobs, because that extra time means that each pilot will have more time (the time is what stacks) to lay down damage and absolute damage over time is greater, even though on it's own drake incidental damage isn't necessarily that great... that's why a hurricane is so dangerous to the solo drake pilot. If a BS is going to get the ability to fit dread weapons a Raven or Domi should be able to out-tank it.

If a BS could have that kind of DPS while maintaining BS tanking ability (like an Abaddon.. man those things are tough) and could have dread guns it would become a silver bullet system and that is not balanced at all.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#17 - 2012-05-01 15:48:17 UTC
Haas Tabris wrote:

Been thinking about this one for a while, especially after the tier 3 bc's came out that could fit BS weapons....

WHAT IF there were a "light dread" class of ships that was about twice the size and cost of a tier 3 battleship and could fit 2 dread-class weapons but could only fit battleship armor and shield mods? And WHAT IF this ship had a jump drive AND could also jump through gates? And WHAT IF the skills to fly them were not that much more expensive than the BS skillbooks?

I think this would be uber cool. And tons of fun. And might just shake up lowsec and 0.0 fights a bit. But that's me.

Any thoughts? Comments? Trolls?


Possible, but no to having a jump drive.

Cap/Super Cap ships should not have jump drives (or Jump Portals) either, and be forced to travel conventionally, but that is another arguement altogether.

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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-05-01 16:00:21 UTC
Tier 3 Battleship fitting XL guns; Rohk, Hyperion, Abaddon, Maelstrom. T2 perhaps, so you can't dipshit out and go herp duurrrpppp I fly cheap, therefore I get to bash a POS uber cheap at no cost to me in seconds.

Plus they get a tracking bonus Roll
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#19 - 2012-05-01 16:24:05 UTC
Aqriue wrote:
Tier 3 Battleship fitting XL guns; Rohk, Hyperion, Abaddon, Maelstrom. T2 perhaps, so you can't dipshit out and go herp duurrrpppp I fly cheap, therefore I get to bash a POS uber cheap at no cost to me in seconds.

Plus they get a tracking bonus Roll


An XL gun Rokh....that tickles me.

I will leave this right here

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2012-05-01 16:25:30 UTC
xl guns are freaking useless without siege mode or the massive titan damage bonus

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