Issues, Workarounds & Localization

I'm having exactly the same issue.

I am running 2 x 1080p monitors with 2 clients. On fullscreen run at 60FPS dropping to 59.5 at most. 1 client running in windowed mode or even fixed window and the FPS drops to 30 FPS.....and is REALLY REALLY erratic. Jumps anywhere from 15-40 FPS. I thought this might have been all the crap installed on my PC, so i formatted it while i installed the mobo, cpu, ram etc etc into my new case.

my PC specs:

q6600 @ 3.2ghz
Asus P5QL PRO
4gb Kingston Hyperx
sapphire radeon 4890 vapor-x 1gb

Not the fastest or newest PC but it should handle 60FPS on both clients especially on low GFX settings.

any help would be appreciated.

Dunno if people that posted in this thread are still having this issue, but I think I've discovered the culprit.

After doing lots of googling and fiddling, I disabled the Windows 7 Aero theme (going to pure basic, with no frills) and then was able to get three clients of EVE running on three monitors in non-SLI on 2 GTX560s at a full 60 fps without any major dropouts. I ran it this way all night.

The problem had been documented before on eve-o forums, and it may not be the EVE client's fault. Windows Aero uses transparencies and other fancy affects that turn vsync on to make sure stuff is smooth. The problem is that some *windowed* games that also use vsync (like, say, EVE) get messed up by this. It appears to be a timing thing, not a horsepower thing.

I disabled Aero by choosing the basic theme, went into the performance options for the computer (right-click Computer, properties and it's in one of those tabs -- on a Mac at work atm, can't look it up) and turned off all stuff except smoothing screen fonts. Set EVE to interval one and interval default at different times to test it; settled on one. I had 60fps on all clients. Cards were running relatively low load and I even set an underclock profile and they were still able to maintain 60fps.

Fixed.

There may be something CCP can do to program around this (or had before and it only recently appeared again). It appears that this bug only affects some games that run windowed mode.

My setup:

i7/2600
16GB
2xGTX560Ti w/latest drivers (SLI connected but currently disabled)
3 Samsung BX2440's (1 on primary, 2 on secondary card)
Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1

Good luck, all. I'm buying that 4th monitor now. :D

Any word an an actual fix for this? Having the ugly windows basic borders around my clients is nearly as distracting as the FPS drop....

I'm on the 301.24 driver. With one client open, on the select character screen, my framerate under Interval Immediate is about 480FPS. With Interval One selected, it drops to 30FPS. Start a second client, with II seleected both are around 350FPS, switch to IO and they're both at 15FPS. Windowed mode, Aero enabled (obviously).

Anything I should look at to help debug this?

it should, but obviously it doest as people are saying.

Jolen Maddax, have you, by any chance, tried unticking the tick boxes seperatley to see which is the main culprit? untickign almost all of them, seems liek a quick soloution, rather than finding which one is actually causing it.

IF you do manage to try this out, post your results

Mjedesiin, could you please submit a bug report for me? (Press F12 when you are in the game, with a client getting 30 or 15fps).
In the title, include my name somewhere, "for CCP Paradox".
You don't have to write much in the description etc, I just want the logs that it sends me.

I'm unable to reproduce anymore on my machine here at CCP, I used to be able to but not since we "fixed" it. It seems you're still affected. Let me know ASAP when you submit the report.

What I always missed when I had a less monstrous graphics card was an interval 2 option, in fact I would still use it now if available.

This game if perfectly playable at 30FPS, so why not enjoy a stable frame rate and better nicer rendered frames, versus a wasteful toggle between 30 and 60 FPS due to vsynch being on? Let alone the death to the eardrums on some rigs with vsynch off!

Thanks for the report Mjedesiin, I'm working on it.

Turn off/Disable Anti-Aliasing on each of your clients

I have reproduced and confirmed the problem after speaking to a player. From the Bug Reports, the similar clue was that people had a second video device listed in their DxDiag. Whether you guys were using a second Nvidia device as a physx processor, or just to plug another monitor into.
This is causing the problem, if you unplug a monitor that is connected to the second device. (Whether it is a second PCIE GPU or the GPU found on a CPU (Core i7 etc)) then you will notice that EVE will behave normally, i.e V-Sync will kick in to your monitors true refresh rate.
Now we have the information to debug this, we can work on a specific fix. For now, if you have a monitor plugged into a second video device and are wanting to play EVE, you should disconnect it. Hopefully a fix will come as soon as possible. Sorry for the inconvenience, and a special thanks to the one player who persisted and helped me out.