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Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#21 - 2012-04-26 17:09:43 UTC
Morganta wrote:
more people inside and outside opening new holes?

holes don't spawn on their own, players have to warp to one's grid for it to load


Yes and no. New wormholes that are unopened spawn as a sig. They don't open until warped to. There are more wormholes than just statics that can randomly appear as sigs and be opened which is what people are talking about happening in greater occurrence. N432 for example is one of the possible random signatures for a wormhole from nullsec to C5 wspace, any number of them can spawn in a single system.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#22 - 2012-04-26 18:25:51 UTC
Messoroz wrote:
Morganta wrote:
more people inside and outside opening new holes?

holes don't spawn on their own, players have to warp to one's grid for it to load


Yes and no. New wormholes that are unopened spawn as a sig. They don't open until warped to. There are more wormholes than just statics that can randomly appear as sigs and be opened which is what people are talking about happening in greater occurrence. N432 for example is one of the possible random signatures for a wormhole from nullsec to C5 wspace, any number of them can spawn in a single system.


well afaik there is no limit to the number of connections to a part of w-space
I'm unsure if a sig actually has a predisposed connection with a particular end point outside of sec status
I have always operated under the assumption that the connection is not made from point a to point b until the hole is spawned, so while most holes will have a solid minimum (ie 1 static and 1 random) of egresses it could potentially have an unlimited number of egresses in total depending on how many sigs are scanned down across the eve universe in any 24 hour period
Letrange
Chaosstorm Corporation
#23 - 2012-04-26 19:04:59 UTC
Are you sure they are true randoms and not simply the outgoing statics of various system. There are rumored to be whole swaths of newbies to wormholes in there. .-A-. has a wormhole campaign going last I heard, then you've got all the drone russians who got kicked out of the drone regions and don't want to go back now that mins are going to be a problem. All of this leads to an increase in the number of players going into wormhole space which will naturally result in more statics being spawned as k162's.
MisterAl tt1
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-04-27 19:51:27 UTC  |  Edited by: MisterAl tt1
Increased number of people probing for holes does explain k162 holes. It does not explain increase in Z142 holes number.
While evicting AAA from on wormhole we had 2 Z142 opening in half-an-hour!
CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#25 - 2012-04-28 12:42:53 UTC
MisterAl tt1 wrote:

CCP, have you changed something?


Nope Smile
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-04-28 12:53:08 UTC
Completely random guess, could this be caused by an increased number of Quantum Flux Generators being installed in sov space? How exactly do those work anyway?
Michael1995
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#27 - 2012-04-28 14:05:44 UTC
I haven't noticed anything personally while roaming around scanning.

More wormhole connections showing up can only be a good thing anyway! Twisted

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IsTHeRoD
Achozen Dueces TecH
#28 - 2012-04-28 16:13:55 UTC
It's a myth that the unscaned wh opens only when someone scans it dowm and warps to it ....

Two sides of the wH are "scanable" Upon creation....


Can CCP confirm that.... ?
MisterAl tt1
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-04-28 20:39:57 UTC
CCP Greyscale, thx. However the number looks strange. I'll talk more with other scanners.

IsTHeRoD, it is not a myth unless you can scan a k162 hole that would have "more then a day" cycle timer. k162 is created when someone initiates warp to the hole from the other side.

I've heard people had "loops" home-otherWH-home and they did not have k162 at home before scanned and warped from the other side.
Calsys
Monks of War
#30 - 2012-04-30 10:58:55 UTC

today have two c140 and one z142 holes
i think this is looks strange
i would like to scan after DT maybe i'll found couple of d792 for full set :D

CCP Greyscale wrote:
MisterAl tt1 wrote:

CCP, have you changed something?


Nope Smile

yea
Even if you change something you dont told us a truth anyway :D
Masikari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-04-30 11:20:22 UTC
I had the same question recently. I was seeing 5-6 WH's open up almost daily in my old C2, whereas a couple of years ago it could be weeks before I saw more than the two usual statics.

I think it really is down to not only more players in the game, but more people living in WH space now. It's very uncommon that I scan down an empty WH these days. Also, random events tend to form wave patterns. One month I'll find my C4 full of WH's, the next it'll be empty
Hatt0ri Hanz0
Life sucks then you die Ltd.
#32 - 2012-04-30 11:54:07 UTC
I really don't think this is anything new. I ALWAYS have more holes into my system on the weekend. More people playing, with more time to play, so they do more scanning. More holes scanned and grid loaded, means more people are going to find them, go through them etc etc. I also dont really believe in these dynamic hole things. I think every wh connection is a static from somewhere.
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Fraternity.
#33 - 2012-04-30 11:56:39 UTC
Your Mum's undergone a dynamic hole increase
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-04-30 12:08:04 UTC
Miilla wrote:
W-space is the new safesec.


Do anyithing other than QQ lately?

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MisterAl tt1
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-04-30 15:26:42 UTC
3 consequent neighbouring systems had a total of 6! nullsec holes.
Jace Errata
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-04-30 15:45:32 UTC
thread title wrote:
Dynamic holes

Bow chicka bow wow!


(No, I don't have anything else to say on this subject.)

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Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#37 - 2012-04-30 20:58:00 UTC
A year ago I had the same situation in the c3 that i was living in. I had same type of wormholes (not k162) open un and closing in matter of hours (no activity on the other systems). Then again yesterday a N968, if my memory doesnt fail me, needed 10 back and forth with an mwd raven to be closed. Weird things happen in Anoikis space

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-04-30 21:01:50 UTC
>2012
>posting on General Discussion and expecting not to get relentlessly trolled

ISHYGDDT.

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Calhontor
Munchkin's
#39 - 2012-04-30 21:21:38 UTC
Funny I was gonna start a topic about wormholes.
Iv'e been doin alot of exploration recently and found MANY MANY wormholes.
A couple of days ago i ran from Passari(0.4) to Ishomilken(0.4) and i foun 15 wormholes in just them 5 systems.
I could accept that as just random chance but its been happening alot i cant go 5 jumps without finding lots of wormholes.

Also a friend of mine found 6 in 1 system just recently.
Hauling Hal
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-04-30 21:34:12 UTC
New WH forum is -> that way...
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