EVE General Discussion

That trailer you linked was so dull I couldn't even force myself to finish it. The thing to remember about treachery and double dealing being possible is that it means that trust has real meaning in this game. Because trust the most valuable commodity in the game and you can't have real trust where betrayal isn't an option.

In the end the Goons are probably the most honest and trustworthy group in this game. This is why they are successful. They tell everyone straight up that unless you are blue to them they will do their damnedest to scam you, gank you and make you miserable. You always know where you stand with Goons you are either an ally or a potential victim. It's not their fault everyone thinks they are a special snowflake.

I never said it was a bad trailer. It takes more than pretty pictures to make me want to play a game, tho, and if you are so shallow that you would choose to play a game based on its trailer and not its gameplay, then you sir, are a truly sad individual.

He's saying there are those who are slaves to their excesses, and CCP is mom slapping things out of their hands.

First, not a threat, just a joke. Way to take things far too seriously.

Second, there is no such thing as non-combative space in EVE, so we have found out why you are failing to understand.

Third, you are correct, as things stand there is no real reason to take a hulk to nullsec(unless you want to mine ABCs), other than the fact that an intelligent person can mine in more safety in null than in high, even tho it was designed with nullsec in mind. That is exactly why I was suggesting GIVING them a reason.

This is the whole problem with the current attitudes of the mining profession, as well as the problem with the risk:reward balance in highsec vs nullsec. Highsec gives you an illusory sense of safety because you think CONCORD is supposed to save you, while nullsec makes you feel in danger, which will make you behave in ways that will increase your odds of survival. If you play smart in highsec, you can be far safer because of CONCORD, but people like to stay in well populated systems and mine while AFK.

I can tell ya that a solo miner in a hulk, without any kind of boosting support, can make 50 mil/hr mining ABCs, which seems to make the miners I work with all kinds of happy(I haven't mined in 3 years or so, so I dunno how much highsec mining makes) but they do have to go into hiding fairly often because of hostiles in local.

I guess this is the last reply to you tho, since you appear to refuse to actually understand how the game is supposed to work, and think your hulk should just be able to tank a gank fleet.

Ok, breaking my no reply thing since you actually posted a reasonable response :)

I don't, in any way what so ever, think that any ship currently allowed in highsec should be removed from it.

I DO think that giving a hulk a bonus to mining ABC ores, ON TOP of what it already has, would be a good thing, as it would provide both a reason for miners to take their hulks down to null, and provide a much needed boost to nullsec industry.

I honestly can understand why you seem so opposed to a 100% buff to hulks, just because it doesn't also buff highsec miners. I happen to like miners, tho I do think most highsec miners do need to HTFU and get over their fear of low and null. I run daily mining ops out in nullsec(I do it from an orca or rorqual) and those that we have are really great dudes, who almost never get mad about losing their hulks, because they realize it happens.

Yes, the rules are different, but you seem to think that mining outside of highsec is fieryhelldeathofdoomincarnate, or that nullsec should not be a more profitable place to be to balance the fact that it is more dangerous(as long as you play smart, highsec is extremely safe, but we get people we KNOW will kill us all the time) and alot more work(do you think sov takes and holds itself?)

Hulks, and exhumers as a whole, could use some buffs to make them more appropriate to sectors of space other than highsec, and this could very easily be done without actually nerfing them for highsec. Give hulks bonuses to mining ABCs, and give Covetors, say, a massive agility boost, so they can get out of danger in lowsec in a reasonable way(grabbed that off the top of my head) and you have just made mining low and nullsec ores a much more viable option, without having to rebalance half the game around it.

Edit: Can you break your paragraphs up so its easy to break the post into multiple quotes for ease of addressing individual points?

Probably not, but low and nullsec miners will get so rich its not even funny

I don't think your medication is working properly anymore, just saying. Eve never fades is win because it is win, it represents the dream of eve not simply shiny. The good Null sec miners are already filthy rich, and even better.... why don't you go try and get rich in low sec for me? lol I would be happy to nuke my sec status again if people decided to start doing that.




All in all, I hope that I have offered proof enough that your medication is no longer effective. Contact your local healthcare professional for dose modification for best results. After a year or too you know, your body gets used to it and then you might as well be taking a placebo.

Another ridiculous statement, you are on a roll. Half of everyone here would be banned if that was even remotely true. Also, CCP seems to have banned your inappropriate signature. I guess someone at the top doesn't like what you have to say either?

I actually agree, to a point, with the OP's post. Anytime an action gets alot of attention by CCP, there's a risk they are going to deem it needs adjusting. Since it appears that suiciding hulks/barges is very popular these days, judging by the amount of crying on the forums, it wouldn't surprise me that CCP has been looking at it. They do have a company to run/keep alive.

I find your ability to read text and miss the point entirely, while at the sometime drawing to wildly misconstrued conclusions, quite mesmerizing. Can you do it again?

* anticipates.