EVE General Discussion

Look at his avatar....it looks like he starches his underwear.

I do not believe he understands sarcasm or has a sense of humor of any sort.

As for Bot-hunting rewards....

If you want to reward bot hunters, add this: a player incurs a 7-day ban for every 3d bot report that proves unfounded?

yes reward active reporting of bots.
If it turns to be a botter, give the reporter a nice amount of isk..Like a billion...
If this is implemented botting will die in months maybe even days
I can already see people creating corps for this since its profitable.

Those that report pilots that turn out NOT to be bots should be penalized for wasting CCP's time and the accused pilots time. On top of that the 'reward' should be given to the falsely accused pilot.

There is nothing in the EULA/TAC/TOS/Whatever that puts ANY onus on CCP to do ANYTHING about people who cheat, or in fact anything at all.

They literally accept no responsibility for anything, but happily accept any and all money people are still dumb enough to send them.

They perform the bare minimum of tasks they think they can get away with to keep the dollars rolling in. That's capitalism baby. Everything is done down to a price, not up to a standard.

You want to see CCP act? Cut in on their business. Start selling ISK, then you'll see them move. (Unless you're a particular ex-CSM member who does all the RMT character trading in which case you will be overlooked)

1. mocking, contemptuous, or ironic language intended to convey scorn or insult
2. the use or tone of such language

The first part I got, the second part is hard to determine through text. Either way, why not add constructive feedback instead of being sarcastic?

I did say blatantly. There is a difference between someone reporting mass hulks a few jumps out of jita, and someone who is spamming everyone they dislike as a bot. Though I know what you mean by how confusing things could get with either type and telling them apart.

Someone explain wtf this guy is trying to say?

Botters are bad. Rewards for catching a confirmed botter maybe. Exposing botter in every fashion including bans AWESOME!

i can see pirates gettting into this too.

People going around spamming "bot" is exactly whats going to happen.

Bots are what everyone likes to blame for Eve's problems, but they are also nearly impossible to prove exist on any kind of significant scale.

The moderators just closed a thread about this highly controversial issue, arguments about bots tend to erupt into megathreads because half the playerbase is crazy paranoid and assumes bots are everywhere, and are somehow the primary menace plaguing eve online and supposedly "ruining" the economy, whereas the other half of the population has never seen a bot, or just doesnt care if you make some afk isk.

Until anyone can post information proving bots exist on a massive scale and somehow threaten the economy overall (which no one has), it boils down to case-by-case bot reporting. You either care enough to observe, detect, and report, or you dont. But sitting around saying that either other players or CCP needs to jump on an anti-bot crusade is both an ancient and pointless pastime.

CCP does what they can to crush bots when they find them, players report them when they do, but no matter how much botting gets shut down, it will continue, as will the players that refuse to accept that CCP is doing anything about bots to begin with.

To the OP - I think you're better off simply ignoring the idea that bots are destroying the game, stop listening to the masses, and simply do the sensible thing - report a bot if you see it, and relax if you dont.

Any bit of AFK isk one can earn is a trickle compared to the amount of isk someone can make actually playing the game, anyways. Most bot raging happens because non-nullsec people assume that nullsec is nothing but botters, and the bot outcries are rooted in bigotry more than fact. Or, people call out multi-boxers as botters and innocent players end up getting banned for playing the game legit. Either way, its silly. Even the botters themselves admit it barely keeps their accounts active, which is sad because if you feel you need bots to keep up with the guy next door, you're just not very creative. From scamming to looting pinatas to starting a gambling outfit, there are myriad ways to get ahead in the game that are based on YOUR wits, not the wit of a machine. I personally refuse to see these people as my enemy or competitor, they are not worth my time. I pay for PLEX too, and use much more efficient methods than automating 6 accounts, only to pay for said accounts instead of buying fun ships and pewing with them.

Players already have formed their own anti-bot measures and this is how it should be. CCP doesnt have resources to constantly purge a game of a constantly adapting, reoccuring minor threat at the expense of taking care of some of the more major balancing issues the game has that are much more immenent. I wouldnt expect CCP to do much more than they already do - having an open ear to anyone who sees something, and dealing with it if they see it.

I think I once said some years ago that definite GM-known bots should be GM flagged for "world pvp" and let the populace have at them. You would see perhaps a black flag next to their name.

Have some balls like the devs of this MMOG I remember reading about years ago that is set in the Roman era (wonder if that is even around; don't remember the name). When a cheater was caught they nailed his avatar to a cross.