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Burn Jita Over (?) - Outcome and Results
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Lexmana
#61 - 2012-04-29 07:10:19 UTC
Duvida wrote:
I'm pretty sure that if it got to the point where CCP was saying 'Our paychecks are in danger!', that some 'things' would happen to ensure a happy high-sec population.

I think CCP marketing is pretty happy with the events so far:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/28/nowhere-is-safe-in-eve-online-as-goonswarm-suicide-bombs-galactic-trade-hub/
Vulcan23
New Eden Advanced Experiments
#62 - 2012-04-29 07:13:28 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Welp, now that Hulkageddon is on and the 'official' part of Burn Jita is apparently over, the results from the EVE Kill board are a bit interesting.

Of the ships that are use for major transportation of goods, there were destroyed:

25 Freighters
9 Jump Freighters
1 Orca

That's IT for major cargoholds that actually haul a descent amount worth halting from trading.

Remaining are:

272 T1 Industrial class
87 T2 Transport (smallest cargoholds of these classes)

That's a grand total of 394 trade ships with only 35 of them being major ships.

I hardly think that broke our economy, especially if you follow CCP Diagoras and the scale of numbers in EVE, which are astonishingly LARGE. This is powdered toast comparatively.

The other 9200 losses are combat ships not used for major trade hauling anyway, mainly BC's and Destroyers. More than 1/4 are Capsules.

http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=143


The really amusing thing is the event is a much damper squib than your numbers imply. You are citing a killboard that gives all the kills in Jita for the WHOLE MONTH OF APRIL Lol

The total number of ships killed is actually only 10-20% of the number you are giving.

Here is the CFC's own campaign KB for Burn Jita:

CFC KB

26 Freighters
10 Jump Freighters
57 Industrial Ships Shocked
8 Transport Ships
qDoctor Strangelove
Doomheim
#63 - 2012-04-29 07:24:46 UTC
Vulcan23 wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Welp, now that Hulkageddon is on and the 'official' part of Burn Jita is apparently over, the results from the EVE Kill board are a bit interesting.

Of the ships that are use for major transportation of goods, there were destroyed:

25 Freighters
9 Jump Freighters
1 Orca

That's IT for major cargoholds that actually haul a descent amount worth halting from trading.

Remaining are:

272 T1 Industrial class
87 T2 Transport (smallest cargoholds of these classes)

That's a grand total of 394 trade ships with only 35 of them being major ships.

I hardly think that broke our economy, especially if you follow CCP Diagoras and the scale of numbers in EVE, which are astonishingly LARGE. This is powdered toast comparatively.

The other 9200 losses are combat ships not used for major trade hauling anyway, mainly BC's and Destroyers. More than 1/4 are Capsules.

http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=143


The really amusing thing is the event is a much damper squib than your numbers imply. You are citing a killboard that gives all the kills in Jita for the WHOLE MONTH OF APRIL Lol

The total number of ships killed is actually only 10-20% of the number you are giving.

Here is the CFC's own campaign KB for Burn Jita:

CFC KB

26 Freighters
10 Jump Freighters
57 Industrial Ships Shocked
8 Transport Ships





What makes you think this is an event for K/D ratios?
Go count freighters jumping through gates in/out of JITA.

Also, note that one of the freighters was killed using ONLY destroyers. 134 destroyers or so to be exact.
I think I looted 10 of them wrecks after the things chilled down.

And if you are to look at numbers, loot at number of PODS.
Alara IonStorm
#64 - 2012-04-29 07:31:16 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=143

Shocked

Wow out off 104 pages April 27 makes up page 75-54 of them and April 28th makes up 54-1.

Close to 2 days this event has done close to 3/4th the damage of all the combat in Jita for a month.

Jita being one of the most consistently violent systems in the game to have 2 days trump of month of war and ganking.

Good Job Jita Event People. 75 Pages in 2 Days.
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2012-04-29 07:36:01 UTC
You think its over?

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Ashrik Tyr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2012-04-29 07:39:58 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:

If any other corp were to camp Jita theyd likely get the same numbers your point?
Believe it when I see it
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-04-29 07:43:36 UTC
Kengutsi Akira wrote:

Know what the funniest thing about this is? I bet this was all preplanned in advance (the Gions have been screaming at anyone that said this was just tears for Mittens getting banned that this HAS been being planned for months) WITH CCP. CCP gets free press, Goons get to RP that theyre badboys "forcing CCP's hand". its win/win.


Actually 'Burn Jita' was originally scheduled for after fanfest, and had everything to do with Mittens getting over 10,000 votes, wasted or not; Its not about kill:death ratios, isk efficiency, or any other kind of epeen stroking; we're in Jita, ganking things because its fun and the boats were provided.

You can tinfoil all you want, proclaim all you want; but stop trying to pass off your buttmad hypothesis as to what you think the 'what' and 'whys' are, when you are obviously uninformed to EVERYONE that has even remotely payed attention to the ongoings in the game for the last 3 months.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2012-04-29 07:47:06 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
You think its over?


I certainly hope not, I would feel downright silly killing random industrials in the undock if Burn Jita was over already.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#69 - 2012-04-29 07:48:03 UTC
qDoctor Strangelove wrote:
What makes you think this is an event for K/D ratios?
Go count freighters jumping through gates in/out of JITA.

Also, note that one of the freighters was killed using ONLY destroyers. 134 destroyers or so to be exact.
I think I looted 10 of them wrecks after the things chilled down.

And if you are to look at numbers, loot at number of PODS.

The smartbombing typhoons top the k/d ratios haha.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#70 - 2012-04-29 07:48:48 UTC
Xython wrote:
Rico Minali wrote:
You think its over?

I certainly hope not, I would feel downright silly killing random industrials in the undock if Burn Jita was over already.

If you still have the ships, the party continues, at least for you Smile

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-04-29 07:50:47 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Xython wrote:
Rico Minali wrote:
You think its over?

I certainly hope not, I would feel downright silly killing random industrials in the undock if Burn Jita was over already.

If you still have the ships, the party continues, at least for you Smile


YAY!
Vulcan23
New Eden Advanced Experiments
#72 - 2012-04-29 07:55:28 UTC
qDoctor Strangelove wrote:


What makes you think this is an event for K/D ratios?
Go count freighters jumping through gates in/out of JITA.

Also, note that one of the freighters was killed using ONLY destroyers. 134 destroyers or so to be exact.
I think I looted 10 of them wrecks after the things chilled down.

And if you are to look at numbers, loot at number of PODS.


Who said anything about K/D ratios? I thought it was supposed to be about shutting down the biggest hub in the game. These numbers suggest that the objective has not and will not be reached. It seems unlikely that any effect even vaguely close to the promised one will occur.

As to pod numbers, what has that got to do with anything? The vast majority of those will come from the people voluntarily joining in the combat. This event is meant to be an industrial interdiction and, in those terms, it shows little signs of success.

All that aside, the main point of my post was to correct the mistake that everyone has bought into for four pages of this thread - that there have been 10k ships killed during Burn Jita. There haven't. There have been 10k ships killed in Jita in the whole month of April. The little 'Burn Jita' tag at the top of the KB cited in the OP does not indicate that that is a campaign KB for Burn Jita. It appears at the top of every page on that site at the moment.
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#73 - 2012-04-29 08:01:23 UTC
Panacani wrote:
It's a little disappointing after all the spam and hype about "destroying every ship!", then "destroying every industrial!", then "destroying rich industrials!", then finally "destroying a handful of industrials?".

The most exciting moment in the whole thing was watching 4 goons fail a gank and the guy gets aligned and out anyway with another 50 goons sitting around doing nothing.

And the goon ***** spam - goons sure do seem to like ***** art.

All the hype for a "fell asleep in the theater" moment. Disappointing.


Dunno, the nyx was neat tho it was stupid it got booted to another system

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#74 - 2012-04-29 08:01:49 UTC
Vulcan23 wrote:
Who said anything about K/D ratios? I thought it was supposed to be about shutting down the biggest hub in the game. These numbers suggest that the objective has not and will not be reached. It seems unlikely that any effect even vaguely close to the promised one will occur.

As to pod numbers, what has that got to do with anything? The vast majority of those will come from the people voluntarily joining in the combat. This event is meant to be an industrial interdiction and, in those terms, it shows little signs of success.

All that aside, the main point of my post was to correct the mistake that everyone has bought into for four pages of this thread - that there have been 10k ships killed during Burn Jita. There haven't. There have been 10k ships killed in Jita in the whole month of April. The little 'Burn Jita' tag at the top of the KB cited in the OP does not indicate that that is a campaign KB for Burn Jita. It appears at the top of every page on that site at the moment.

GOONS FAILING. FAIL CASCADING.

Guys, the pubbies won, lets just leave them alone.


..


..


Actually, never mind, there's still ships left.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#75 - 2012-04-29 08:04:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Pickles Wong wrote:
Cool

Pffft! My final observation on this whole thing is this:

If you place buy orders at Jita, forget it for awhile. Put your buy orders elsewhere. Those of us that thoroughly understand EVE markets will find those buy orders in short order and come to you to sell. Doesn't much matter where it is, as long as it isn't in low-sec. Like a particularly large and uncomfortable turd, the Jita disruption will eventually come to pass.


What I thought very funny is apparently 20 something stupid ass freighter pilots ABSOLUTELY HAD TO MOVE **** TODAY

and got what they deserved

Kengutsi Akira wrote:
If any other corp were to camp Jita theyd likely get the same numbers


dude has a point. the guy from EVE24 sat and counted just freighters coming and going at 4-4 and got over 100 in an hour on a saturday. Its not like there isnt a wealth of targets.

Lexmana wrote:
Duvida wrote:
I'm pretty sure that if it got to the point where CCP was saying 'Our paychecks are in danger!', that some 'things' would happen to ensure a happy high-sec population.

I think CCP marketing is pretty happy with the events so far:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/04/28/nowhere-is-safe-in-eve-online-as-goonswarm-suicide-bombs-galactic-trade-hub/


Yeah that artivle is one of the things that makes me thing theyd planned this out in advance with CCP. They knew what was coming.

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#76 - 2012-04-29 08:11:53 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Kengutsi Akira wrote:

Know what the funniest thing about this is? I bet this was all preplanned in advance (the Gions have been screaming at anyone that said this was just tears for Mittens getting banned that this HAS been being planned for months) WITH CCP. CCP gets free press, Goons get to RP that theyre badboys "forcing CCP's hand". its win/win.


Actually 'Burn Jita' was originally scheduled for after fanfest, and had everything to do with Mittens getting over 10,000 votes, wasted or not; Its not about kill:death ratios, isk efficiency, or any other kind of epeen stroking; we're in Jita, ganking things because its fun and the boats were provided.

You can tinfoil all you want, proclaim all you want; but stop trying to pass off your buttmad hypothesis as to what you think the 'what' and 'whys' are, when you are obviously uninformed to EVERYONE that has even remotely payed attention to the ongoings in the game for the last 3 months.






... um "Actually 'Burn Jita' was originally scheduled for after fanfest,"
but his saying it was scheduled in advance it tinfoil... pay more attention to what you type

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#77 - 2012-04-29 08:23:29 UTC
I'm not sure where people are getting that it was planned with CCP.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#78 - 2012-04-29 08:25:52 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
I'm not sure where people are getting that it was planned with CCP.

Here. Have some tinfoil.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#79 - 2012-04-29 08:27:56 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
I'm not sure where people are getting that it was planned with CCP.

Here. Have some tinfoil.


Tinfoil gives food a funny taste. I prefer not to use it. Plastic Wrap, on the other hand, is great.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#80 - 2012-04-29 08:37:51 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
I'm not sure where people are getting that it was planned with CCP.

Here. Have some tinfoil.


Sorry its early in the morning here..

Quote:
"There was one bug [the 'bookmark escaping agro bug'] in the game that meant that if they do the things they're going to do, they could have escaped the in-game consequences. So we fixed that bug about three weeks ago. And they went, okay.


So CCP knew at least that long ago what was planed.

So, all of you who wonder why the Boomerang suddenly became an exploit? There you go

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes