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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#61 - 2012-04-28 04:47:35 UTC
randomjitaalt29423904590 Pirkibo wrote:
hey its dark-rising werent they in BoB 2.0 ~IT Alliance~?

Were they? Huh, as pets, or actual members?

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Romanovs
Doomheim
#62 - 2012-04-28 04:48:56 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Romanovs wrote:
SMA=biggest waste of time spent spying on an enemyOops

You guys need to up the rent on those freeloaders, or you might as well blue all idiots in eveBlink

PS: SMA members gets free access to your mumble, thanksCool

SMA did a very good amount of work in Branch, and they've got a nice bit of branch (which they helped take).

But you just see them as pets or renters. Whatever makes you feel happy, I guess.


Oh, and there's no way we're gonna blue highsec. Heh. How does flashy red sound?



You know that is BS, but I still love goons and most of CFC Big smile Besides, it is more fun to mess with Darius csm at the moment so I leave you guys aloneBlink
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-04-28 04:55:13 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:


Don't need to substantiate, it's common knowledge. Of course you'd disagree due to being a brown nose bee pet.


DMC, can you link me to any hard evidence? If you guys can show me some hard, unrefutable evidence, I will change my mind about GSF.

Already said there was no need to link any hard evidence and I cba to waste my time when you clearly won't change your mind.

Offhand I'd say the most common known scam is the recruitment fee scam. Oh and The Mittani himself at Fanfest bragged about scamming players for isk with fake Titans.

Anyway, on to another thread.

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#64 - 2012-04-28 04:58:32 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:


Don't need to substantiate, it's common knowledge. Of course you'd disagree due to being a brown nose bee pet.


DMC, can you link me to any hard evidence? If you guys can show me some hard, unrefutable evidence, I will change my mind about GSF.

Already said there was no need to link any hard evidence and I cba to waste my time when you clearly won't change your mind.

Offhand I'd say the most common known scam is the recruitment fee scam. Oh and The Mittani himself at Fanfest bragged about scamming players for isk with fake Titans.

Anyway, on to another thread.


See, there is this big difference between scamming (which is allowed) and cheating (which includes botting and exploiting and things like that). So I'd be interested to hear what evidence you have pertaining to *actual* cheating. And if you have evidence, you should also report it.

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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#65 - 2012-04-28 05:06:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Morganta wrote:
who cares if it's revenge or not?

honestly I thought his FF comments while ill advised were not anything nearly as bad as the future FOX news (newscorp for you Brits) commentators on the forums made it out to be.

I watched the video and frankly see much more disturbing (and in some cases illegal) speech in jita local right now

CCP really needs to man the hell up, they are 50% responsible for mittens getting to the point where he could get hammered and say stupid **** on stage at fanfest, yet he gets to be the subject of a bloody witch hunt by gutless pubbies on the forums and drooling mid-level accountants at CCP while I get to listen to dozens of alts in jita spewing hate speech and posting content in chat that would lead to a ban of most any other players if CCP actually decided to pay attention to something that doesn't get play in the gamer blogs or has to be reported to them via the petition system.

Really, like him or hate him, mittens got a raw deal and CCP's response to the entire overblown situation was abhorrently shameful.

In my book he's entitled to some bitterness


Interesting so you dont think if someone showed you they were suicidal and you used your corp contacts to try and push him over the edge and commit himself to that course, and CCP found out (even not in a public forum mind you) you dont think youd get a perminant ban for that? I damn sure think you would.
And two wrong dont makea right... dunno if you know that. So regardless of what the drooling Bees in Jita say that doesnt make it better.

Have you reported those people saying such illegal and horrible things? Cause if that answer is no youre partly to blame then as well. Theyre not gonna report thenmselves.

Romanovs wrote:
I love it how people talk as though this is the first time and people have always wanted to burn Jita and goons finally did it.

People burned Jita as far back as the release of the game, even killed concord so keep dreaming. Besides, goons have yet to do anything in this game someone has not done before, difference is PR and back then less people gave a ****.. They are not even the most organized or even the largest or first at anything as far as I know.

I saw a greater Jita fire in 2006, twice.

Goons use to be cool when they started out in eve, now they obviously try too hard and the only difference between them and BoB today is that Goons care too much, more about this game and their epeen than BoB ever did.

They deny and joke about it, but I have seen top world ranked Raid guilds with worlds firsts in WoW care less about their game than goon cares about eve.

And for that I also love goons, because they are one of the few groups that gets CCP to fix **** in EVE because of that passion.

Go go goons!



The Goons basically ARE BoB now. The became that what they hated.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#66 - 2012-04-28 05:15:37 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Already said there was no need to link any hard evidence
…and what you say doesn't matter, because the need is still there. Onus probandi — your old foil — strikes again.


Anyway, yes, OP, you are indeed confused since the Jita attack was planned long before fanfest and was most famously presented as a reward, should he get 10k votes in the CSM elections (that was in early March, btw). Also, CCP is not showing them any support beyond thinking it awesome that the game they've created allows for this kind of gameplay (and rubbing their hands in glee over the media attention that will be, and already has been, created).
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#67 - 2012-04-28 05:20:11 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
See, there is this big difference between scamming (which is allowed) and cheating (which includes botting and exploiting and things like that). So I'd be interested to hear what evidence you have pertaining to *actual* cheating. And if you have evidence, you should also report it.

He's got nothing, otherwise he'd be petitioning the hell out of CCP to get everyone banned. But thinking forums support will make up for this is foolish.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#68 - 2012-04-28 05:22:55 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Already said there was no need to link any hard evidence
…and what you say doesn't matter, because the need is still there. Onus probandi — your old foil — strikes again.


Anyway, yes, OP, you are indeed confused since the Jita attack was planned long before fanfest and was most famously presented as a reward, should he get 10k votes in the CSM elections (that was in early March, btw). Also, CCP is not showing them any support beyond thinking it awesome that the game they've created allows for this kind of gameplay (and rubbing their hands in glee over the media attention that will be, and already has been, created).


For those who cannot load Twitter:
The Mittani's Twitter wrote:
If we break 10k votes this year, we're going to annihilate Jita - and everyone is invited. http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=438 #tweetfleet #eveonline #csm7

9:44 PM - 6 Mar 12 via web

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Vauss Dutan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#69 - 2012-04-28 05:27:58 UTC
Damion Rayne wrote:
Yalneg Splet wrote:
I'm pretty sure Burn Jita was planned well before the ban.

Also Goons would do this for any reason whatsoever. Like for example is it sunny outside somewhere on the planet? rainy? Did anyone on earth take a breath in the last 20 years?


Go listen to the recorded TS session, it was planned AFTER the ban. Where Mittens said, and I quote "CCP threw me under a bus" end quote. The TS recording is on these forums and on youtube and soundcloud, go look it up.


Check the 6 March Tweet from the Mittani http://twitter.com/#!/themittani

Check your facts.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#70 - 2012-04-28 05:28:03 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:

This situation as well as all the recent and proposed changes proves without a shadow of a doubt that CCP has no balls or backbone. Claiming this is testing CCP's dedication to the sandbox is pure bullshit. This situation shows CCP doesn't give a rats-ass about the sandbox. In fact, this whole thing was orchestrated by CFC in cooperation with CCP.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliant
proof.
Quote:
Some players are worried the game will be ruined by The Mittani's Goonswarm alliance, but CCP promised not to interfere.

"I tell you what, it's going to be f***ing brilliant," Jon Lander, senior producer of Eve Online, told Eurogamer this morning. "Absolutely brilliant. They're going to do exactly what you're able to do in the game, and people will have to roll with it. It'll be great. Last night I got an email - Jita was at 2100. Time dilation kicked in at 15 per cent. And there were people just watching the sh*t that was going down. It was brilliant. It was absolutely great."


BTW totally sounds professional doesnt he lol


Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Vauss Dutan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-04-28 05:29:14 UTC
Damion Rayne wrote:
ToG wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:

It was as if I was on TS3 as the great Alex spoke the words aloud.


Burn Jita was planned ages ago. They moved the date to coincide with mittens unbanning. It would have happened regardless.


No, you idiot, it wasn't.

http://soundcloud.com/cptunderpants/state-of-the-goonion-march ---- Again, spoken here, as being planned during this State of the Goonion.


Wow you really jumped head first into your nonfact checked hole.
Romanovs
Doomheim
#72 - 2012-04-28 05:30:13 UTC
Vauss Dutan wrote:
Damion Rayne wrote:
Yalneg Splet wrote:
I'm pretty sure Burn Jita was planned well before the ban.

Also Goons would do this for any reason whatsoever. Like for example is it sunny outside somewhere on the planet? rainy? Did anyone on earth take a breath in the last 20 years?


Go listen to the recorded TS session, it was planned AFTER the ban. Where Mittens said, and I quote "CCP threw me under a bus" end quote. The TS recording is on these forums and on youtube and soundcloud, go look it up.


Check the 6 March Tweet from the Mittani http://twitter.com/#!/themittani

Check your facts.



Do you "follow" your leader on Twitter? Do you also follow Justin bieber?Lol
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#73 - 2012-04-28 05:31:38 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:


Interesting so you dont think if someone showed you they were suicidal and you used your corp contacts to try and push him over the edge and commit himself to that course, and CCP found out (even not in a public forum mind you) you dont think youd get a perminant ban for that? I damn sure think you would.
And two wrong dont makea right... dunno if you know that. So regardless of what the drooling Bees in Jita say that doesnt make it better.

Have you reported those people saying such illegal and horrible things? Cause if that answer is no youre partly to blame then as well. Theyre not gonna report thenmselves.


like I said, I heard the FF comments and didn't reach the same conclusion as you, I heard one off the cuff remark to "call him"
it was most definitely jocular in nature, the utterings of a drunk guy CCP let on the stage.

as far as jita local goes, it's not my job to police CCP's game and I'm not about to spend my game time filing petitions when any reasonably intelligent company would post GMs in what would be considered a high density trolling area during this event

they sure have plenty of people locking threads, or is it simply that they perfer to let players suffer the poop in game just so long as the world sees a clean external face of eve.

see a pattern here?
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#74 - 2012-04-28 05:32:33 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:


This situation as well as all the recent and proposed changes proves without a shadow of a doubt that CCP has no balls or backbone. Claiming this is testing CCP's dedication to the sandbox is pure bullshit. This situation shows CCP doesn't give a rats-ass about the sandbox. In fact, this whole thing was orchestrated by CFC in cooperation with CCP.


DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
In fact, this whole thing was orchestrated by CFC in cooperation with CCP.

My my, I guess all those threads saying to ban all goons before they could do this were in vain then, eh?


Don't know since I never posted anything like that.


Someone hack your account?

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#75 - 2012-04-28 05:35:51 UTC
Morganta wrote:

as far as jita local goes, it's not my job to police CCP's game and I'm not about to spend my game time filing petitions when any reasonably intelligent company would post GMs in what would be considered a high density trolling area during this event



Yeah the patter I see is Goons dont like policing the game either... yeah w/e just dding another red bar to the list I guess.

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#76 - 2012-04-28 05:38:12 UTC
I see that the OP has shut his hole now.

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Michael1995
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#77 - 2012-04-28 06:09:04 UTC
Killing pixels is equal to RL murder mmmmkay! Blink

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Ai Shun
#78 - 2012-04-28 06:14:05 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
See, there is this big difference between scamming (which is allowed) and cheating (which includes botting and exploiting and things like that). So I'd be interested to hear what evidence you have pertaining to *actual* cheating. And if you have evidence, you should also report it.


Didn't you learn from this?
Tech3ZH
Doomheim
#79 - 2012-04-28 06:18:25 UTC
ToG wrote:


Edit: somethingawful created .... 4chan.



It did? Really? Interesting...or are you kidding?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#80 - 2012-04-28 06:23:02 UTC
Tech3ZH wrote:
ToG wrote:

Edit: somethingawful created .... 4chan.

It did? Really? Interesting...or are you kidding?

Apparently that is indeed the case.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?