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Anyone attacking goon space?

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-04-28 03:55:53 UTC
Can think of 10000 reasons why this wouldn't work.

Snipa
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#22 - 2012-04-28 03:56:33 UTC
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it.

No nonononono, we're about to fail cascade.

A headshot to VFK would END us once and for all ~~~ don't do it, leave us aloneeeee~~~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#23 - 2012-04-28 03:57:17 UTC
bigbillthaboss3 wrote:
****NEWS ALERT*** Goons space is currently under attack by the 'Gurista Alliance', someone took this seriously!


Have you seen their killboard? Its insane! Almost as crazy as Serpentis, Bane of TEST.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#24 - 2012-04-28 03:58:42 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
bigbillthaboss3 wrote:
****NEWS ALERT*** Goons space is currently under attack by the 'Gurista Alliance', someone took this seriously!

Have you seen their killboard? Its insane! Almost as crazy as Serpentis, Bane of TEST.

You only need to call if you are under attack by the Serpentis ~

But I think your ratting isn't FFA, so you'd have to allow us to help, otherwise you will have to collect their bounties all by yourselves.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-04-28 03:59:10 UTC
Carebear invasion.

To the hulks! Invade Deklein!

There is nothing wrong with this plan.
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-04-28 03:59:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Karadion Kohlar
Alavaria Fera wrote:
John Caffeine wrote:
The game current gamemechancis and reinforce timers would make a "surprise" attack completly pointless.

Attacking someone's home space while they're away only works when they're tied up with campaigns elsewhere, and can't just jumpclone back home.

Right. And it wouldn't be hard at all to get a thousand over drakes, two capfleets and a supercap fleet into Delve or Cobalt Edge thanks to the disgusting thing known as Titan Bridges.

I saw people saying NC. should try to retake the tech moons they "didn't want" in Venal. Heh, that would be some real fun ~ (not really, POS shooting is only liked by a few people.)

I like POS shooting. Getting in the top ten is fun for me. Then again I'm deaf and dumb so I got no soul and nothing to live for.

Even #1 like this http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13069314
John Caffeine
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-04-28 04:02:24 UTC  |  Edited by: John Caffeine
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible.

That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works.


Taken back was meant toward other alliances / corporations coming in to take that space from you. You see all sovereignty in EVE is held by an alliance but is owned by all the games players in reality. Though I would change my statement and opinion about this if GSF was capable of holding that region from today until the servers shut down.

Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it.



When did IT try to headshot VFK? One year ago they had already lost all space and collapsed.
During MAX 2.0 they never went for VFK; and GSF wasn't really a major player yet.
I can't remember any other attempts from IT so I'm going to assume you meant PL.

You are right though, there's no entity in the game right now that would even stand a chance at taking space off you, which is why no'one will try. It's the reason people group up in huge coaltions after all, safety in numbers and all that.
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-04-28 04:02:57 UTC
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible.

That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works.


Taken back was meant toward other alliances / corporations coming in to take that space from you. You see all sovereignty in EVE is held by an alliance but is owned by all the games players in reality. Though I would change my statement and opinion about this if GSF was capable of holding that region from today until the servers shut down.

Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it.


But I hardly ever hear of GSF taking other space. So surely if you can't control more than you can't contain yours indefinitely.

Something clever

Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-04-28 04:05:06 UTC
Digital Messiah wrote:
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
Yes I understand that you can easily return to your own space. But at some point sovereignty of that region has to be taken back. CFC and GSF are a strong alliance. But nothing in EVE has ever proven to be invincible.

That implies we've lost the space and we have to take it back. I don't think you get how sov / siege mechanic works.


Taken back was meant toward other alliances / corporations coming in to take that space from you. You see all sovereignty in EVE is held by an alliance but is owned by all the games players in reality. Though I would change my statement and opinion about this if GSF was capable of holding that region from today until the servers shut down.

Oh please. Tell me who is this brave alliance / corporation that will do this? IT Alliance (BoB #23489072352934) tried this last year and failed horribly. Why? We **** caged EVERY POS that they had deployed in VFK. There's also the fact that we can easily deploy 900 consistently all day round to ensure that no enemy gains a foothold in VFK. It's a nice thought from pubbies like you but no one will do it.


But I hardly ever hear of GSF taking other space. So surely if you can't control more than you can't contain yours indefinitely.

http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png

Hi! You see that pink up there? Walked over it in little over a week.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#30 - 2012-04-28 04:08:36 UTC
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
I like POS shooting. Getting in the top ten is fun for me. Then again I'm deaf and dumb so I got no soul and nothing to live for.

Even #1 like this http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13069314

Can you beat a superrifter in POS shooting? Everyone knows we have a bunch of these "big ibises" about. I always did wonder about the relative POS shooting dps between caps and supercaps.

What's your favorite dreadnaught, by looks, the minmatar one?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-04-28 04:09:36 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
I like POS shooting. Getting in the top ten is fun for me. Then again I'm deaf and dumb so I got no soul and nothing to live for.

Even #1 like this http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13069314

Can you beat a superrifter in POS shooting? Everyone knows we have a bunch of these "big ibises" about. I always did wonder about the relative POS shooting dps between caps and supercaps.

What's your favorite dreadnaught, by looks, the minmatar one?

Phoenix everyday!
bigbillthaboss3
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2012-04-28 04:09:44 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
(not really, POS shooting is only liked by Dabigredboat.)


Fixed.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#33 - 2012-04-28 04:13:31 UTC
"Get in fleet for good fites"

30 mins later, shooting at a POS

"Goddamnit, DBRB."
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-04-28 04:14:44 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
"Get in fleet for good fites"

30 mins later, shooting at a POS

"Goddamnit, DBRB."

At least you have to hear DBRB. I don't because I have a good reason not to. :)
Digital Messiah
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-04-28 04:16:38 UTC


Impressive, though like all giants, goons will fall some day as well. You see not all of your members are honest to god goons. Which isn't to say they are spies either. Eventually you will lose pilots, followed by your sov, and finally you will have to restart. Even if every single pilot in GSF was truly apart of your community. People even then choose to leave for varied reasons.

Anyways my point wasn't to sound like some self fulfilling prophecy about an EVE alliance. But I am saying you can't control that space forever.

Something clever

Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-04-28 04:23:41 UTC
please go back to tending to your mining barge instead of speculating on nullsec sov warfare

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#37 - 2012-04-28 04:28:47 UTC
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
"Get in fleet for good fites"

30 mins later, shooting at a POS

"Goddamnit, DBRB."

At least you have to hear DBRB. I don't because I have a good reason not to. :)

Just show up in fleet, please, I hear people like it <3

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#38 - 2012-04-28 04:29:49 UTC
Digital Messiah wrote:
Anyways my point wasn't to sound like some self fulfilling prophecy about an EVE alliance. But I am saying you can't control that space forever.

Yes, we will probably fail in finite time with probability one.

(Defining EVE stopping as fail, otherwise there is a non-zero possibility we survive until then, given that it will occur in finite time with probability one.).

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-04-28 04:51:56 UTC
Messoroz wrote:
Digital Messiah wrote:
Seems like this would be a good time to coordinate an attack on them. Seeing as to some extent their resources are split. Has to be a few fleet leaders etc not present.


So what? Reinforcement timers gives them 2 days to just go back and pillage attackers.


Apparently theyre invulnerable so yeah go try it

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-04-28 04:55:21 UTC
Aina Sasaki wrote:
I'm sure the idea of doing that has crossed someone's mind... and probably the goons as well. I'd suspect that they are quite prepared for the possibility that someone would try to hit them while this fun in Jita is going on.


lol after this post are 8 or 8 red bars Im assuming you stirred up the hive

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game