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Dear DUST 514 Beta Testers

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ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#101 - 2012-04-23 14:36:26 UTC
@Ghoest

Have you somehow confused Goonswarm with Sony Beta Testers ?

You have your tinfoil hat on backwards
Budsin Adar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#102 - 2012-04-23 15:10:13 UTC
I was wanting to test it but never found out any info. via emails Sad But wished to have tried it Via Computer like EVE is. Since the PS3 they not have the game ready. Also goon swarm should have never had the keys to the game they screw everything up.

Now I hope we know when its coming out i tried to find out from future shop and other places and no 1 has a release date WHY is that?????
thanks everyone.
now CCP pls answer this 1 tyvm.
Osirus Bayne
Sunrise Donkey
#103 - 2012-04-23 18:40:17 UTC
I have a Beta Code from fanfest but when I go to the site on the card it says the Beta Registration will begin soon. Am I missing something?
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#104 - 2012-04-23 19:44:45 UTC
Osirus Bayne wrote:
I have a Beta Code from fanfest but when I go to the site on the card it says the Beta Registration will begin soon. Am I missing something?


nope. Exactly what it says on the tin. Beta registration begins SOON™

This article explains what's going on.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Burseg Sardaukar
Free State Project
#105 - 2012-04-24 00:57:19 UTC
Gordon Fell wrote:
Dear CCP,

Get me an invite, I'll shut up, promise.

Thanks.


What this guy said....

Can't wait to dual box my Dust toon and EVE toon on the same machine!
kardjaval
Curtana Joyeuse and Durendal Security
#106 - 2012-04-24 07:14:10 UTC
hey, navigator, if you give me a beta key, i do solemnly swear not to leak any of the info i gleam from it, so, um how long until i can expect my invite? do we need a bible, or a plex to put my hand on for my oath to be binding?
ExHeVoRaZ KhaN
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2012-04-24 11:00:59 UTC
This beta is for PlayStation 3 users or is in other platforms ??





Some one think in use the PSX 2 emulator to bring a version for PC ???


That would be AWESOME !!!!!
Alotta Cleavage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2012-04-24 13:28:34 UTC
PS3/PSN+ players that get into BETAs have no idea how to spell NDA much less what it means.
Chal0ner
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#109 - 2012-04-25 11:06:25 UTC
The whining in this thread ... Roll
@CCP - next time you send out beta keys include trojan that installs as well to keep track of all texts containing the ttitle of the game in beta. That way only the guilty will be addressed.Twisted

Of course, then the whiners would blame their children, nephew or cats ...
Fair Warning
Not Even Light
#110 - 2012-04-25 19:37:58 UTC
UnknownHuman wrote:
Navigator...

Sorry m8 but you got the wrong forum. This is Eve Online; not Dust 514.

And I think it is safe to say that your beta testers on the SONY network don't come on here to read about the NDA agreement.

Better to have given it to Eve players first so you could have linked it to their eve account and brought much more meaningful consequences. lol

Just food for thought.


-Unk


I heard DUST514 is related to EVE, like it's done by the same company or something.





If anyone looks for me, i'm hidden in Jita.
Josef Stylin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2012-04-25 23:41:40 UTC
I don't get it, why are you posting this here CCP.

I guess next you'll post EVE patchnotes on the WoW forums?
ELECTR0FREAK
#112 - 2012-04-25 23:46:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ELECTR0FREAK
Fair Warning wrote:
UnknownHuman wrote:
Navigator...

Sorry m8 but you got the wrong forum. This is Eve Online; not Dust 514.

And I think it is safe to say that your beta testers on the SONY network don't come on here to read about the NDA agreement.

Better to have given it to Eve players first so you could have linked it to their eve account and brought much more meaningful consequences. lol

Just food for thought.


-Unk


I heard DUST514 is related to EVE, like it's done by the same company or something.


If anyone looks for me, i'm hidden in Jita.


Problem with that logic is that, as far as we know, no EVE Online players actually have access to DUST 514 at this time as SONY handed out 5000 beta keys to random PSN members, not EVE Online players.

Statistically, Navigator might have gotten his message across to a couple EVE Online players that happen to be PSN members that happened to get beta keys. A few more hardcore Dust 514 fans that play EVE might have bought keys off of PSN members.

But the reality is, if you go out and look at the leaked content (not that I would ever! Roll) it's very obvious that the people breaking the NDA are not EVE Online players.

Discoverer of CCP's original missile damage formula.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#113 - 2012-04-26 00:07:43 UTC
ELECTR0FREAK wrote:
Problem with that logic is that, as far as we know, no EVE Online players actually have access to DUST 514 at this time.


What difference does that make? EVE players will be getting access to DUST in the near future, and the NDA is going to be just as relevant then as it is right now. We're pre-emptively warned this way.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
ELECTR0FREAK
#114 - 2012-04-26 00:50:52 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
ELECTR0FREAK wrote:
Problem with that logic is that, as far as we know, no EVE Online players actually have access to DUST 514 at this time.


What difference does that make? EVE players will be getting access to DUST in the near future, and the NDA is going to be just as relevant then as it is right now. We're pre-emptively warned this way.


Everyone is pre-emptively warned when they are presented with the NDA, so that's a moot point.

Discoverer of CCP's original missile damage formula.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#115 - 2012-04-26 08:16:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
ELECTR0FREAK wrote:
Everyone is pre-emptively warned when they are presented with the NDA, so that's a moot point.


Except that apparently a lot of people were just like "BLABLABLASCROLLSCROLL YES I HAVE READ THE TERMS AND BLOODY CONDITIONS YAWN GO AWAY BORING LEGAL STUFF I WANT TO BLOW S**T UP"

Which, I mean sure there's a good argument for letting natural selection take its course here, but it's only fair to give people a second clear message and ultimatum about this stuff. Especially seeing as CCP don't want the NDA to be breached. The more different places and formats you present information in, the more likely it is that people will actually get the message.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Nicholas Barker
Sneaky Magic Inc.
#116 - 2012-04-27 11:18:48 UTC
Is CCP capable of doing anything without it turning into a shitfest?
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#117 - 2012-04-27 19:15:38 UTC
Nicholas Barker wrote:
Is CCP capable of doing anything without it turning into a shitfest?


I'd LOVE to hear you explain how people ignoring a legal warning and breaking contract is the company's fault.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Enkryption
Intergalactic Pool Boys
#118 - 2012-04-28 18:28:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Enkryption
NDA's have a lot of bark and pretty much no bite in all seriousness, especially in the gaming world against the individual player. If it's a blog/news website they will get a cease and desist but to the individual sharing info anonymously, there is nothing they can really do about.

This is a just sayin' sort of thing, I don't break NDA's ;)
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2012-04-29 00:25:10 UTC
Josef Stylin wrote:
I don't get it, why are you posting this here CCP.

I guess next you'll post EVE patchnotes on the WoW forums?


becuase dust is tied into 0.0 sov warfare, deal with it.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg
ELECTR0FREAK
#120 - 2012-04-29 15:08:03 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
ELECTR0FREAK wrote:
Everyone is pre-emptively warned when they are presented with the NDA, so that's a moot point.


Except that apparently a lot of people were just like "BLABLABLASCROLLSCROLL YES I HAVE READ THE TERMS AND BLOODY CONDITIONS YAWN GO AWAY BORING LEGAL STUFF I WANT TO BLOW S**T UP"

Which, I mean sure there's a good argument for letting natural selection take its course here, but it's only fair to give people a second clear message and ultimatum about this stuff. Especially seeing as CCP don't want the NDA to be breached. The more different places and formats you present information in, the more likely it is that people will actually get the message.


Stitcher wrote:
Nicholas Barker wrote:
Is CCP capable of doing anything without it turning into a shitfest?


I'd LOVE to hear you explain how people ignoring a legal warning and breaking contract is the company's fault.


You seem to be missing the point. I, if not most of us here, are not saying that it's CCP's fault, simply that they were addressing the wrong audience. The Dust 514 keys have gone out, but typically when a closed Beta is started, attention is brought to the NDA, with the understanding that breaching the NDA has consequences for future play. Generally fans are more likely to respect an NDA than people who don't care about the game (and have little reason to care if they get banned). The people who broke the NDA obviously didn't care about it and obviously weren't fans.

It's simply that it seems the first place CCP decided to "remind" everyone about the NDA was here, on a forum, where virtually nobody had a beta key because the first keys were handed out to random uncaring nobodies instead of the dedicated fanbase.

This could have been handled more tactfully. In any case, it's pretty much a moot point now that the FanFest attendees finally have access to the beta, but this thread did leave a bitter taste in many a mouth of CCP's most dedicated.

Discoverer of CCP's original missile damage formula.