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Best PVE Machariel fit plz.
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Orlacc
#21 - 2012-04-27 15:51:59 UTC
Florio wrote:
As you get used to the mach, you'll probably remove the cap booster and fit an AB, then pulse the AB to get transversal up against tricky spawns. You also boost the XL shield booster. A mach's primary tank is its guns - blow up those BS rats before your shield tank becomes problematic. July Oumis's fit is good to start with; then as you get more skills and used to the ship and the rat spawns, go for more dps.

Imho, pimping non-dps mods on a mach (apart from the AB) is not worthwhile because (as I said above) a mach tanks by blowing up the stuff shooting you :)



As this guy says, Mach is all about gank.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
July Oumis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-04-27 16:09:55 UTC  |  Edited by: July Oumis
Orlacc wrote:
Pretty much what I fly except I don't use Shield amp and add hardener.

Whoops. The fit just above ^^



Amp > Hardener

More tank in short time and since your cap is running out pretty fast -> less cycles more cap. I need 3 cycles for 30% shield. I try to keep it at 30-50%, because the "natural" regeneration rate is better.
Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#23 - 2012-04-27 20:40:17 UTC
This July fella flies it excactly like I did and has good points in all of the posts. Take heed.

The natural progression for a mach is 3x CCC / SMC "stationary" tank build -> AB - cap boosted build -> burst aerator II.

In highsec, depending on where you mission, you might like a damage control (vs ganks) or a nanofiber (improved travel time). The damage control build works by ditching a mid for tracking computer and a TE for DC. It requires pimp stuff / imps.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#24 - 2012-04-27 20:49:30 UTC
July Oumis wrote:



Amp > Hardener




I disagree - damage that isn't applied thanks to resistances doesn't need to be repped.

Personally, I used to use 2 invulns, XL booster, MWD and cap booster fits after MWDs were allowed in missions. Had the quickest completion times with that kind of fit.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Orlacc
#25 - 2012-04-27 23:24:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
July Oumis wrote:
Get in range (20km), stop or align (if necessary), shoot.

I'm pretty sure we mean the same thing. I won't stand still when there's a group of ships 50 km away. Avoiding transversal is the key.



20km???? My Mach hits at 60km. Close to falloff but still 1200 against Angels BS.

Plus, what mission do your shields get down to 30%?

Mach's tank is it's gank.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#26 - 2012-04-27 23:34:17 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
July Oumis wrote:
Get in range (20km), stop or align (if necessary), shoot.

I'm pretty sure we mean the same thing. I won't stand still when there's a group of ships 50 km away. Avoiding transversal is the key.



20km???? My Mach hits at 60km. Close to falloff but still 1200 against Angels BS.

Plus, what mission do your shields get down to 30%?

Mach's tank is it's gank.



Please post your 3000 dps exp/kin (at optimal) mach fit. 
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Orlacc
#27 - 2012-04-27 23:54:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
July Oumis wrote:
Get in range (20km), stop or align (if necessary), shoot.

I'm pretty sure we mean the same thing. I won't stand still when there's a group of ships 50 km away. Avoiding transversal is the key.



20km???? My Mach hits at 60km. Close to falloff but still 1200 against Angels BS.

Plus, what mission do your shields get down to 30%?

Mach's tank is it's gank.



Please post your 3000 dps exp/kin (at optimal) mach fit.



How the hell is a 1200 hit (all guns) against Angels at 60km using Barrage 3000 dps???

My DPS is about 900

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
July Oumis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-04-29 09:38:16 UTC
With Barrage (high cost, longrange, EXPLO damage) against angels (explo weakness), you can hit for 1200, but not every shot. Try that on Serpentis or Sanshas...

Why not just run 1-2 cycles of your MWD and be in range with fusion? Also reloadtime...
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#29 - 2012-04-29 09:43:41 UTC
Doesnt a mach cost more than 1b now?

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#30 - 2012-04-29 09:47:39 UTC
1.25 for the hull in Jita a couple of days ago

Sure am glad I got my machs when they were 700M or so.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
July Oumis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-04-29 09:58:34 UTC
Since you guys could get the BPCs via missions in Curse, also helped to keep the cost down on Machs, i guess. Blink
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#32 - 2012-04-29 13:06:03 UTC
July Oumis wrote:
Since you guys could get the BPCs via missions in Curse, also helped to keep the cost down on Machs, i guess. Blink



Eh no it was much more efficient to sell Dram BPCs and use the ISK to buy Machs in Jita. All the russian botfarms in Angel space crashed the price of Mach BPCs last year.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Trulaine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-04-30 01:54:29 UTC
How does the Mach perform in Fed Navy missions? Currently doing 4's with Navy Mega... Do you fly a Mach like I would speed tank with a Tengu.just much closer?
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