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Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1
Wheat Thin Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1	#1 - 2012-04-26 05:10:26 UTC I've been playing this game since last Aug. Started this toon about 4 months ago gearing to fly this ship, Core skills are 5's and most skills in 4's. I have read hours of forums on ship fittings and would like the best fit for my Mach without spending a ton of isk. I have a bil to use on the Mach. All the input is appreciated thank you.

Sigma Sagittarii Inc. 163
Pookoko Sigma Sagittarii Inc. Likes received: 163	#2 - 2012-04-26 05:20:07 UTC Cheap fit that works just T2 (I strongly recommmend faction gyros though) Highs: 800mm Auto canons + whatever on the utility slot Mids: MWD or AB + XL booster + 2xHardeners + Cap Injector Lows: 4xGyros + 3x Tracking Enhancers Rigs to taste TBH, as long as you get the lows right the rest is just a matter of preference.

Arch Ange1

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 2

#3 - 2012-04-26 10:21:42 UTC

Like the above poster said, but use faction gyro/deadspace booster/faction hardeners. That'll run you up to 1 bil (rep fleet gyro and TE, Gist x large booster, Faction hardeners). If you still have some more isk, then use a dead space AB.

3 faction gyro and one t2 is sufficient. the fourth one all not add much dps to warrant the use of faction.

You won't need XL booster if you know to fly it.

Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 109
Kattshiro Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 109	#4 - 2012-04-26 11:32:34 UTC Cheap fit for a billion + dollar ship? This means you can't afford to lose it.

July Oumis

Royal Amarr Institute

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 24

#5 - 2012-04-26 11:45:21 UTC

Minmatar BS V, Gallente BS IV, Large Autocannon Spec IV. If you don't have it, go for a Maelstraom.

If you really want to fly it, here's a cheap but tanky fit:

[Machariel, PvE Cheap]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II

Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
[empty high slot]

Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
[empty rig slot]

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

EM /Therm... use Mission specific hardeners, tanks even more.

Bunnie Hop

Bunny Knights

Likes received: 618

#6 - 2012-04-26 12:09:52 UTC

July Oumis wrote:

Really good advice.


Wheat Thin Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1	#7 - 2012-04-26 12:53:29 UTC Thank you everyone for your input, when I have more isk, will upgrade the ship to have better performance.


July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire Likes received: 24	#8 - 2012-04-26 13:49:13 UTC \| Edited by: July Oumis You have 1 bil, my fit costs around 500 mil and suddenly you have to save up? Booster = 200 mil Gyros = 210 Rig = 80 I flew this fit, until I switched to a setup with afterburner and no capbooster.

Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 34
Vain Eldritch Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde Likes received: 34	#9 - 2012-04-26 13:57:11 UTC You're really brave for undocking this ship if you can't afford to replace it. Fly safe! o7 Androgynous Caldari Cross-dresser


July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire Likes received: 24	#10 - 2012-04-26 14:11:19 UTC Putting all your ISK into one ship, that will sooner or later burst into flames, is always a bad idea.

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Orlacc Likes received: 961	#11 - 2012-04-26 15:28:24 UTC Shield skills ftw. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."

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Kieron VonDeux Likes received: 243	#12 - 2012-04-26 15:47:26 UTC Just remeber that the Mach is best at speed tank, so you should be using your AB to tank more than your SB. I fly it like an oversized Vagabond myself, but not all missions react well to that. Read up on how you get aggro in each mission. Some are range based.

July Oumis

Royal Amarr Institute

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 24

#13 - 2012-04-27 08:42:24 UTC

I use the AB only to get in Range, because the tank with an XL Booster is good enough for every Mission. If you orbit stuff with an AB and use the Machs low signature and high agility you forget the fact, that your tracking and with it, your applied DPS are going down.

I kill the frigs standing still, then approach the bigger stuff in a straight line and kill cruisers -> BC -> BS.

Less moving, more shooting. The Macha has 7 x 800mm tanking modules; use them! ... Big smile

Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 137
Name Family Name Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 137	#14 - 2012-04-27 09:25:02 UTC Above fit is way overtanked if you have decent skills, but regarding the fact the OP wants to fly a mach on a 4 month character, skills wont be decent, so not a bad idea to fly it like that. However, a mach without a propmod is plain terrible. That's like a hulk without strip miners. At least put an AB on it (or an MWD if you're into blitzing).


July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire Likes received: 24	#15 - 2012-04-27 09:48:42 UTC 1 Thats why I posted the fit above. He will need more tank, because the damage will be far lower than necessary. I use an AB / MWD on my personal fit with 4 gyros, but I would't recommend that, if you have medium skills and no experience with the ship. Also he wanted a cheap fit...

Kieron VonDeux

Likes received: 243

#16 - 2012-04-27 14:07:59 UTC

July Oumis wrote:

Think outside the box and don't simply orbit with the AB on. I do gun runs on my current target while linning up for my next target so transversal is negligible.

It's also a lot more fun than just orbiting or sitting still.

After destroying FF, DD, and CC...; I destroy 1 rat BS on way in, one on way out to about 15km, one on turning around and then one on the way back in.

Less moving and more shooting is simply wasting so much of the potential of the Mach. Flying smart still allows you to have ~90% of the DPS while yanking and banking. That actually makes some of the most boring missions fun.


July Oumis Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire Likes received: 24	#17 - 2012-04-27 14:38:48 UTC Get in range (20km), stop or align (if necessary), shoot. I'm pretty sure we mean the same thing. I won't stand still when there's a group of ships 50 km away. Avoiding transversal is the key.

Florio

Miniature Giant Space Hamsters

Likes received: 51

#18 - 2012-04-27 15:09:20 UTC

As you get used to the mach, you'll probably remove the cap booster and fit an AB, then pulse the AB to get transversal up against tricky spawns. You also boost the XL shield booster. A mach's primary tank is its guns - blow up those BS rats before your shield tank becomes problematic. July Oumis's fit is good to start with; then as you get more skills and used to the ship and the rat spawns, go for more dps.

Imho, pimping non-dps mods on a mach (apart from the AB) is not worthwhile because (as I said above) a mach tanks by blowing up the stuff shooting you :)

July Oumis

Royal Amarr Institute

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 24

#19 - 2012-04-27 15:19:19 UTC | Edited by: July Oumis

[Machariel, x-pensive]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Dread Guristas Photon Scattering Field
Pithum C-Type Invulnerability Field
Core X-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive

800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
[empty rig slot]

Hobgoblin II x5
Garde II x4

Pretty expensive, but nice to fly. If you have a boost alt you can downgrade the Gist to Pith...

Gankers Dream, so don't stay at gates and watch local. Stay away from major missionhubs.


Orlacc Likes received: 961	#20 - 2012-04-27 15:49:43 UTC Pretty much what I fly except I don't use Shield amp and add hardener. Whoops. The fit just above ^^ "Measure Twice, Cut Once."

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