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Is it fair that CCP can get away with a stealth nerf to Orca's?
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Jockstrap Johnson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-04-27 00:24:59 UTC
Linked from Issues, workarounds and Localizations

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=100307&find=unread

Personally I feel its a little too underhanded... even for CCP - Thoughts?

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Dar Saleem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-04-27 00:26:34 UTC
Jockstrap Johnson wrote:
Linked from Issues, workarounds and Localizations

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=100307&find=unread

Personally I feel its a little too underhanded... even for CCP - Thoughts?



Errr fixed, I did it today
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#3 - 2012-04-27 00:29:04 UTC
It's only a problem if your Orca pilot is AFK. A good Orca pilot watches for cans like a hawk.

And i'm not sure, but did the corp hanger trick still work for smuggling things? If so, then it was a smart move.

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Jockstrap Johnson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-04-27 00:31:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jockstrap Johnson
More along the lines that an out of corp character cannot even drop items into the corp hangar...

Yes, even when fleeted, and orca has been config'd properly for fleet use

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#5 - 2012-04-27 00:33:54 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
It's only a problem if your Orca pilot is AFK. A good Orca pilot watches for cans like a hawk.

And i'm not sure, but did the corp hanger trick still work for smuggling things? If so, then it was a smart move.


They fixed the smuggle thing like a year ago.

To the OP, yes it totally is, it's their game isn't it?

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Jockstrap Johnson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-04-27 01:31:39 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
It's only a problem if your Orca pilot is AFK. A good Orca pilot watches for cans like a hawk.

And i'm not sure, but did the corp hanger trick still work for smuggling things? If so, then it was a smart move.


They fixed the smuggle thing like a year ago.

To the OP, yes it totally is, it's their game isn't it?


I'll agree with you that they (CCP) did indeed create the game.

Is it fair to have unannounced major game changes which manipulate RMT... aka plex ;) Done in a manner that keep PLEX values high covertly? Minerals prices, ISK sinks, faucets and all the joys that come along with that :P

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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#7 - 2012-04-27 01:54:22 UTC
Quote:
Is it fair that CCP can get away with...

:: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes.

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Corbin Blair
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-04-27 06:38:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Corbin Blair
Jockstrap Johnson wrote:
Linked from Issues, workarounds and Localizations

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=100307&find=unread

Personally I feel its a little too underhanded... even for CCP - Thoughts?

This just in, bug fixed and people not in your corp can't access the corp hangar, miners cry. Full story at 11.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#9 - 2012-04-27 06:43:29 UTC
It's a change to force you to be in a corp and thus force you to eat all the wardecs coming with the next wardec changes.

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R0me0 Charl1e
Easy A Industries
#10 - 2012-04-27 06:46:44 UTC
Miners should play the game like everyone else, always having the risk of your ship popping while out in space.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-04-27 06:50:39 UTC
my npc corp mining alt coward backbone
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-04-27 06:53:27 UTC
I lost it at 'underhanded'. Oh god, my sides.

Seriously, man?

Seriously?

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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#13 - 2012-04-27 07:52:32 UTC
Jockstrap Johnson wrote:
Thoughts?


Yes, you're a troll.

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Jockstrap Johnson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-04-29 06:12:31 UTC
R0me0 Charl1e wrote:
Miners should play the game like everyone else, always having the risk of your ship popping while out in space.


Lets face it anything undocked has a good chance of getting popped, miners even more so for shiggles now than ever before (even before this recent covert nerf).

Why add extra tedious arthritis inducing keystrokes and mouse clicks to the operations of legit legit miners and their corporations. Unless its CCP's intention to make mining a much more frustrating and tedious experience.

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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#15 - 2012-04-29 06:33:40 UTC
R0me0 Charl1e wrote:
Miners should play the game like everyone else, always having the risk of your ship popping while out in space.


Considering the paper hull on most mining ships, I don't think there is a lot of safety for them now..... Shocked

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Kengutsi Akira
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-04-29 08:14:27 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Quote:
Is it fair that CCP can get away with...

:: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes.


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and that was fair too

"Is it fair that CCP can get away with..." :: checks ownership on the box ::

Yes
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#17 - 2012-04-29 08:21:18 UTC
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
R0me0 Charl1e wrote:
Miners should play the game like everyone else, always having the risk of your ship popping while out in space.


Considering the paper hull on most mining ships, I don't think there is a lot of safety for them now..... Shocked

People still use catalysts right? Better jack up that CONCORD speed, as they say "one shot ,one kill".

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ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#18 - 2012-04-29 08:47:58 UTC
Jockstrap Johnson wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
It's only a problem if your Orca pilot is AFK. A good Orca pilot watches for cans like a hawk.

And i'm not sure, but did the corp hanger trick still work for smuggling things? If so, then it was a smart move.


They fixed the smuggle thing like a year ago.

To the OP, yes it totally is, it's their game isn't it?


I'll agree with you that they (CCP) did indeed create the game.

Is it fair to have unannounced major game changes which manipulate RMT... aka plex ;) Done in a manner that keep PLEX values high covertly? Minerals prices, ISK sinks, faucets and all the joys that come along with that :P

Tinfoil hat time

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Aron Croup
Incompatible Protocol
#19 - 2012-04-29 09:10:26 UTC
Well, it is called a 'corp hangar', so I guess it makes sense that it is for members of your corporation, not your fleet.

Just like a non-corp fleet member can't access your corp hangar in station or on your POS.

Can a fleet member still access the ship maint bay though? Because as I see it, that's what really needed fixing, to stop people from ducking concord.

/Aron
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-04-29 09:12:31 UTC
Guess who's game it is, genius ...
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