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Loki for ratting...?
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Xerophthalmia
Absolute Order
Absolute Honor
#1 - 2012-04-26 20:31:03 UTC
I've been ratting in a Tengu for a while in Serpentis Space to get money for pvp, which works fine ofcourse. A friend of mine started to train for a Loki for different purposes and now he wants to rat in it. I don't have any experience with the Loki other than I know it can web the **** out of you. But when it comes to pure dps and tank the Tengu is better, which is what is needed for ratting.

So I was wondering if anyone can give some advise on how to fit a Loki for ratting (havens and sanctums mostly)? It could be for solo ratting or for ratting together. Maybe it's not the best ship for the purpose, but he has started training for it, so I'm afraid I had to ask :-)

Thanks in advance!
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2012-04-26 20:42:31 UTC
It won't do as well as a Tengu, but it should do just fine. There is a LOT of variance in the fits you could use though. Does your friend prefer to armor or shield tank (the Loki can do either one just fine)? I'll try to EFT up something quick when I get home in a bit.
Xerophthalmia
Absolute Order
Absolute Honor
#3 - 2012-04-26 21:01:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Xerophthalmia
mxzf wrote:
It won't do as well as a Tengu, but it should do just fine. There is a LOT of variance in the fits you could use though. Does your friend prefer to armor or shield tank (the Loki can do either one just fine)? I'll try to EFT up something quick when I get home in a bit.

Thanks! I don't think if matters if it's armor or shield tanked per se, but since he needs dps and rep/booster for tanking I would go for shield tanking so there's room for a couple of gyros. When is armor tanking a Loki viable for ratting? When fitting it with webs?

I've tried different variantions in EFT. Maybe something with a Pithum C-type Medium Shield Booster or something similar?
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#4 - 2012-04-27 01:29:59 UTC
I'd probably try something like this:

[Loki, Serp ratting]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

10MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Booster II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Large Shield Extender II

[empty high slot]
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M

Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Hobgoblin II x5

Stats (at all V, vs Serp damage):
82k EHP, 441 DPS tank
184m sig, 752m/s
503 DPS

With a DED shield booster you can get anywhere from 520 to 970 DPS tank, depending on how much your friend feels like dropping on it. But a T2 shield booster should be fine with tanking most stuff I would think.

It's not the best fit ever, anyone else feel free to toss something better out, but it's atleast a decent fit that should work.
Adacia Calla
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-04-27 02:13:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Adacia Calla
Please ignore previous posters fit.

[Loki, Serpentis PvE]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer <<|
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer <<| CPU Savers, otherwise switch to DG/CN Hardeners which are still cheap.
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer <<|
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

10MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II

425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Phased Plasma M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Loki Defensive - Amplification Node
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Hobgoblin II x5


Signature: 97.5
Speed: 725m/s
Turret DPS: 544
Drone DPS: 99

You will rarely have to use the shield booster since you'll never be hit.

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AstarothPrime
Pecunia Infinita
#6 - 2012-04-27 09:08:56 UTC
Loki? Ratting? In serpentis space? You are kidding, no?

Drake would do better then loki with 0 to no effort due to kin bonus, not to mention the price tag difference.
Caldari ships are THE PvE ships in kin weak space.

I.
Wuxi Wuxilla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-04-27 09:26:56 UTC
Quote:

[Loki, !]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M

Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Defensive - Amplification Node
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir


Hobgoblin II x5


679 Gun Dps
99 Drone Dps
Cap Stable without CCC rigs
829m/s

Still, as someone already said, Loki in Serpentis space is crap.
Not because of dmg (Phased Plasma works well enough) but because the resist profile isn't really geared for Serpentis