Market Discussions

PLEX have dropped quite a bit over last 2 weeks, a B/O of mine for 2 @ 471 was swiftly exchanged just 2 days ago...
...but they have risen again today to 482

ONE of the main problems is the ISK junkies in the game with B/O's for 10, 15 and more just bumping price up, just pure greed! ...and this has spoilt EVE for quite a few players, I know of at least 7 players that have stopped using alts as isk to be earnt doing missions, mining is just not viable - unless you are some sort of jobless idiot that spends his/her entire life on EVE (very sad)

For those that have jobs and RL family commitments, this just isnt viable anymore.
- And before the muppets start saying pay for it, get a better job, millions of isk when you scam like me, just keep quiet as I have heard it all before.

Along with the recent nerf to loot, this will drop even more players from EVE, which everyone (players) will feel in good time no doubt
Oh ....it is to help manufactures they say- that is a loada bullcrap, its just another ISK SINK, as most real manufacturers relied on the HS/T1 loot to melt down for the rare minerals to actually build items that were worth building, selling and making ISK from, now they will have to either; move in and out of LOW/NULL space and risk losing ships (ISK SINK) - (FUN for LOW/NULL sec RL cash players that dominate those areas), or they now buy from market at higher prices as there will be less of these minerals in high sec space (ISK SINK).

It's all about mathematics at the end of the day, and the sums all come down to ISK which spins off from PLEX, which spins off from GTC, which spins off from RL CASH, which spins off profit for CCP! simple to work out if you have any brain cells

Ohh and before anyone says CCP don't control the prices, players do, and all tht crap, wake up just a tad and u will see the light at the end of the tunnel!, It's all about profit for CCP, it is a game, and if they didn't make profit the game WOULD NOT be running.

Hence the recent splurt of PLEX advertising, "you could be GOD", spend your "RL cash", and buy an army, become a PLEX trader and make "MILLION" on the fastest selling item in EVE, you can do all this, just give us RL CASH! CASH CASH CASH, cha ching, cha ching, cha ching £££'s just racking up!!

Hmm.... Dr E's super secret weapon for stable PLEX prices could be something like FOMC. Selling and buying PLEX in the market instead of bonds of course. If they were to use a few alts for their operations without public knowledge, we wouldn't know what they were up to.

This wouldn't do much for balancing supply/demand issues but it would definately spoil manipulation attempts.

Sure this goes against the "hands off" in a sandbox ideals but for CCP it would be the difference between hiring or firing employees.

Yes, that's the whole idea mate.

With rants like that you should go join the evolution denying, abortion doctor murdering, teapartying Christian Right. I'm sure it'd make sense to them.

The whole point of CCP trying to manipulate the plex market is reducing the amount of plex ingame or increasing it. If they just buy one for 500mil and sell it again for 500mil they have accomplished nothing...

Don't worry, I've gone from 6-7 accounts to 15 in the last year so I'm picking up the slack from your poverty stricken acquaintances.


Are you sure these people aren't just bad at the game?

I ask because if they've been mining for income during a period of very low mineral prices only to stop that activity when the mineral prices shoot through the roof then they might be, you know, "special".

Missions have been a terrible way to make isk for a long time too, so I'd have to wonder why they hadn't moved on to something better long before now.


This is nothing new, people have been quitting EVE because they find it too hard since the game launched. That doesn't mean we should make it easier in order to retain these people. You have to remember that a lot of EVE's most loyal and long term players are so because of the relatively challenging nature of the game.


Ok, you have issues here.

Firstly, I'm not sure what your definition of "real manufacturers" are but it appears from this paragraph that they are people who manually gather the materials. The word "manufacturer" seems to have been miss-applied here.

Secondly, you don't seem to understand what an isk sink is. An isk sink is something that removes isk from the game. It is not something that removes isk from an individual players wallet and relocates it to another players wallet. It is not something that destroys a product that was purchased with isk.

Thirdly, you don't seem to understand the concept of opportunity cost and therefore appear to believe that minerals acquired from alternative sources somehow cost less than those purchased from the market.

I think that maybe you should spend less time posting on the forums and more time trying to improve yourself intellectually, because posting isn't going to improve your situation.

I'm not american, I thought you were. Hence the teaparty remark.
As for the religious crowd being left leaning, it is simply not true. I'd say they cover the entire spectrum.

Myself, I'm agnostic and a supporter of fairness and social justice. Those are not dirty words, they are the reasons the scandinavian countries have stable economies and a high living standard. 'Free market' is mostly beneficial to those who already have plenty.

If CCP does not revert the Incursion nerf i predict PLEX price to drop to 400m ISK within the next few months.

I wouldn't describe approximately one third of all ISK generated by bounty pay-outs as "tiny"...

Incursion runners either use their income (minus say 1 plex for the account) to upgrade their ships on the short term, or fund a PVP habit. Perhaps they have another pvp account, but all other extra accounts in general would be isk printing based chars.

As i think it's illogical for people to drop isk-printing accounts less incursion income only would lead to less PVP, not less accounts funded by PLEX.

Ontopic, unless there suddenly is a huge number of new players who kickstart their careers with PLEXes, PLEX prices will remain stable or, as the young become self-sustainable and start to consume plex themselves, rise in price.