These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Ships & Modules

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Specialty Frigates
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Viralty
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-09-29 23:36:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Viralty
Hello Everyone. I can't help but notice that specialty frigates seem like a nice keepsake. I was wondering if any plans are being prepared for these frigate classes to be implemented more in-game? I would love to fly a assault frigate, call me a speed demon, but, it seems in missions, pve, and alot of pvp, specialty frigates are mostly nothing more then expensive waste. I can understand the scaling from frig->Cruiser->BS, etc. But, its bothersome to me. I was wondering what other thought too. Would like to hear from some veterans as such.

EDIT: My apologies i am referring to tech2 Frigs
Andrea Griffin
#2 - 2011-09-29 23:44:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Griffin
If you want to fly an assault frigate then by all means do so. I do.

It is true that AFs, for their price, do not perform adequately but they're still fun to fly. Electronic Attack Frigates are also very expensive for what they offer.

However, the other T2 frigates - Interceptors, Bombers, Covert Ops - are all very useful in their respective situations.

Personally I really love to fly frigates in PvP and it is rare that I fly anything larger. It's a matter of taste, and not caring that you don't get any worthwhile insurance when the ship finally pops. In that respect, battlecruisers are generally more cost effective.

If you are interested in flying assault frigates you may want to consider some of the faction and pirate frigates as well. The price range is similar for the faction frigates (the pirate ones are more pricey), and some of them are quite unique and fun to fly.

Also, on the topic of missions... I have heard of people running L4 missions with a Wolf. It's slow but apparently possible.

Edit: I changed my hairdo and I totally hate it now. I am sad. Back to the Barbie Shop again for some implants...

CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#3 - 2011-09-30 00:21:22 UTC
I think you're getting mixed up. Specialty frigates, like the Zephyr and Echelon aren't worth a ton, they are (as you said) just keepsakes. You can't really complain much that the free stuff isn't the top of the line, they're free after all.

T2 frigs on the other hand, like AFs and such, are actually pretty awesome if you use them properly. No, they don't have gank/tank like BSes and caps do, but they are awesome in the right hands. The majority of my time in the last few months has been spent in a T2 frig of some kind (including 3-4B ISK made flying around in AFs).

If you want to fly an AF, do it, there's nothing stopping you and it's fun.
Viralty
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-09-30 01:39:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Viralty
mxzf wrote:
I think you're getting mixed up. Specialty frigates, like the Zephyr and Echelon aren't worth a ton, they are (as you said) just keepsakes. You can't really complain much that the free stuff isn't the top of the line, they're free after all.

T2 frigs on the other hand, like AFs and such, are actually pretty awesome if you use them properly. No, they don't have gank/tank like BSes and caps do, but they are awesome in the right hands. The majority of my time in the last few months has been spent in a T2 frig of some kind (including 3-4B ISK made flying around in AFs).

If you want to fly an AF, do it, there's nothing stopping you and it's fun.


Yes i just edited for future reference, i was referring to tech2 frigs. But i guess it makes sense when you consider the usualy active players wallet balance. Guess Frigs are the rich mans Cruisers for crash and burn fun. I do agree however the AF can be good in right hands. But the others and i will even include the AF's to a small degree, it seems from my 12+years of mmo gameplay, i still can't help but feel and notice something wrong with this picture of T2 Frigates. Besides Cloaked Scouting Ships, what use is a frig other then the high chance of a crash and burn in a useful widely available active role. I don't believe i would ever waste isk on a t2 for tackle or dps. Maybe the price is off...
Sassaniak
Deadspace Zombie Factory
#5 - 2011-09-30 02:01:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Sassaniak
Viralty wrote:
mxzf wrote:
I think you're getting mixed up. Specialty frigates, like the Zephyr and Echelon aren't worth a ton, they are (as you said) just keepsakes. You can't really complain much that the free stuff isn't the top of the line, they're free after all.

T2 frigs on the other hand, like AFs and such, are actually pretty awesome if you use them properly. No, they don't have gank/tank like BSes and caps do, but they are awesome in the right hands. The majority of my time in the last few months has been spent in a T2 frig of some kind (including 3-4B ISK made flying around in AFs).

If you want to fly an AF, do it, there's nothing stopping you and it's fun.


Yes i just edited for future reference, i was referring to tech2 frigs. But i guess it makes sense when you consider the usualy active players wallet balance. Guess Frigs are the rich mans Cruisers for crash and burn fun. I do agree however the AF can be good in right hands. But the others and i will even include the AF's to a small degree, it seems from my 12+years of mmo gameplay, i still can't help but feel and notice something wrong with this picture of T2 Frigates. Besides Cloaked Scouting Ships, what use is a frig other then the high chance of a crash and burn in a useful widely available active role. I don't believe i would ever waste isk on a t2 for tackle or dps. Maybe the price is off...


waste isk, wut? sometimes its all about fun,

you remember fun right? flying around avoiding things attacking things trying to find out the most you can do, and not dying, or dying who knows? i knwo people that love drams, i personally like my ishkurs,

every ship is a high chance of crash and burn, unless you are flying heavy tanked drakes into l2 missions.

get out and live a little, see what the biggest thing you can kill is


edit, - frigate roams with enough numbers are amazingly fun. sure some of you will die, but so will the enemy and its a lot more enjoyable on your side. or i guess you could just go back to mining.

...............................................................................

Sometimes, you all make me very disappointed.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2011-09-30 03:50:39 UTC
Viralty wrote:
Guess [T2] Frigs are the rich mans Cruisers for crash and burn fun.


This is HARDLY the case. Some people just swear by them in general because they like the way they handle.
Some like Assault Frigs because they like the agility of a frigate coupled with [slightly] sub-cruiser tank/gank.
Some like Interceptors because they like to be able to scout, run down, and tackle targets in a way that normal frigates cannot.
Some like Stealth Bombers/Cov-op ships because they like to sneak around and/or tackle/gank large targets.

Viralty wrote:

I do agree however the AF can be good in right hands. But the others and i will even include the AF's to a small degree, it seems from my 12+years of mmo gameplay, i still can't help but feel and notice something wrong with this picture of T2 Frigates.


Assault Frigates are missing a 4th bonus and Electronic Attack Frigates have a poor performance to price ratio. Outside of that, T2 frigates perform very well within their respective specialty.

Viralty wrote:

Besides Cloaked Scouting Ships, what use is a frig other then the high chance of a crash and burn in a useful widely available active role.


"Crash and burn" is not really a phrase you want to use with T2 ships of any type or class. Not unless you have a bit of ISK. If you do intend on just going "ball-to-the-wall" and run in without intending to survive then you should probably stick to T1 ships until you get a good income stream.

Viralty wrote:

I don't believe i would ever waste isk on a t2 for tackle or dps. Maybe the price is off...


A reoccurring theme in EVE is that you pay heaps of ISK to gain an extra 10 to 20% performance. This is done in the name of "balance." More expensive ships are not "better overall" but instead are "better within their specialty."
For example... Interceptors are designed to go faster for longer periods of time and appear smaller on sensors than normal frigates. Some of the even have bonuses that increase the range of warp disruptors/scramblers, allowing them to "tackle" targets beyond normal scram/web range and stay "safe" until help arrives. This makes the Interceptor "worthwhile" in the eyes of many.

How did you Veterans start?