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Guestimate How Much Suicide Gank You Would Need?

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-26 01:37:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian




Lets say there is a certain Orca that you wanted to kill? Said pilot of said Orca thinks he is cute by plugging in a full slave set and buffering said ship to hell and back, all the way to a presumed 269,000 EHP (291 overheated). Neat trick TBH, considering that a Charon has 180 EHP and almost no resists to speak of.




Here is My Question:

About how much firepower would I need to bring to sink this ship? Let us presume an average sec status of .7 in terms of Concord response time. I am going to guess 12 tornados? Please anyone else who knows better then me, feel free to chime in here and edumicate me with your vast knowledge.

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Dar Saleem
VDD Logistics
#2 - 2012-04-26 01:50:39 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:




Lets say there is a certain Orca that you wanted to kill? Said pilot of said Orca thinks he is cute by plugging in a full slave set and buffering said ship to hell and back, all the way to a presumed 269,000 EHP (291 overheated). Neat trick TBH, considering that a Charon has 180 EHP and almost no resists to speak of.




Here is My Question:

About how much firepower would I need to bring to sink this ship? Let us presume an average sec status of .7 in terms of Concord response time. I am going to guess 12 tornados? Please anyone else who knows better then me, feel free to chime in here and edumicate me with your vast knowledge.



Maybe tell goons the characters name and location. They might consider it a bit of a challenge
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#3 - 2012-04-26 02:20:31 UTC
A quick EFT shows an all V Tornado getting 11.5k alpha with RF ammo in T2 1400s, a cheaper meta3 fit without L Proj 5 gets more like 8k. So, something like 25-34 it looks like (27-37 if he overheats). Probably a couple less if you can find his resist hole.
Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#4 - 2012-04-26 06:11:36 UTC
It would take a thousand ships with more firepower than I've...
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-04-26 06:20:32 UTC
About 1200 Blaster Vigils it looks like.

Hope this helps.

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mxzf
Shovel Bros
#6 - 2012-04-26 06:34:25 UTC
Halete wrote:
About 1200 Blaster Vigils it looks like.

Hope this helps.

And once you get TiDi going from the 1200 rookies in system, the victim gets to watch his ship dieing in slow motion to the never ending swarm of rookie ships.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-04-26 06:39:33 UTC
Next expansion:

TiDi removed for facilitating carebear tears.

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Achtung Waffle
Nex quod Principatus
#8 - 2012-05-11 09:06:22 UTC
Halete wrote:
Next expansion:

TiDi removed for facilitating carebear tears.

I lol'd.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-11 12:27:57 UTC
10k alpha per tornado.
do the maths.

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-05-15 11:05:39 UTC
awww, i was expecting this thread to be about the elimination of a famous hisec dreadnought

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Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#11 - 2012-05-15 11:11:51 UTC
You some how trick him in to going aggro on you in hi-sec?

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Five Thirty
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-05-17 16:41:54 UTC
Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:
You some how trick him in to going aggro on you in hi-sec?


No need to get agression for suicide ganks. Just lock and rock.
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-05-17 21:52:34 UTC
Follow him to low.......................
AureoBroker
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-05-18 00:46:43 UTC
i'm getting 305k BEFORE links and overheat.
So, bring firepower for 350k.
45 'nados and you solved it!
Vorengard
Naval Defence Force
Naval Defence Alliance
#15 - 2012-05-18 13:29:16 UTC
If you went autocannon tornados and overheated you might eb better off actually, since with 1400s you're only getting 1 shot in. you might get 3 shots... if it's a .5 system and you overheat i think u can def get 3. You'd still need like 20 of them at least, 30 might be on the safe side. better idea, go passive target and scan the guy so u know what you're dealing with.
El Geo
Warcrows
The Ascendants
#16 - 2012-05-19 01:38:33 UTC  |  Edited by: El Geo
can get 330k without ganglinks, so 195963hp with 60% resists on thermal, 20 x 10k alpha boats should be able to do it but thats bare minimum

roughly...