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A serious miscalculation by the devs
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xxxak
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-24 20:07:28 UTC
The devs made a mistake when they nerfed supercarriers and now titans. The mistake was simple.

Nerds play EVE. Nerds are gearheads. They took away gear coolfactor without replacing it with new coolfactor toys (Tier 3 BC?).

So far, it hasn't totally destroyed the game (yet), but it's only a matter of time.

The solution? EVE needs a new endgame goal. I'm not sure what that should be, but it should be centered around gear and coolfactor.








(Insert response to whining tears about how EVE has no endgame, its a sandbox, bla bla bla).

[u]The nerfs to supercaps will cause more super pilots to join the largest alliances who can properly "support" their deployment, further concentrating firepower/wealth in EVE. The end result will be fewer "fun" fights, and will hurt EVE in the long run.[/u]
Garibaldi Sinatra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-04-24 20:08:51 UTC
I still long for a supercap


so i think the point is mute from my perspective.

**Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time. **(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)
T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-04-24 20:09:05 UTC
xxxak wrote:

The solution? EVE needs a new endgame goal.

No, it doesn't.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-04-24 20:10:20 UTC
It needs a massive tankbuster dreadnought that pewpews titans easily but barely moves and can't hit anything smaller than an SC

Dodixie > Hek
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#5 - 2012-04-24 20:10:50 UTC
David Lightman: [typing] What is the primary goal?
Joshua: To win the game.
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#6 - 2012-04-24 20:10:56 UTC
endgame is a lie
Garibaldi Sinatra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-04-24 20:11:54 UTC
Endgame is eve addiction and loss of RL

**Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time. **(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)
Proteus Maximus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-24 20:12:27 UTC
I can't land on grid and press the win button anymore. May I have a way to be uber again?
FIXED.

If Goons were around when God said, "Let there be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it.
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#9 - 2012-04-24 20:13:38 UTC
xxxak wrote:
coolfactor.


Why would you ask for an endgame goal that will be forever beyond your reach?

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
Lexmana
#10 - 2012-04-24 20:13:44 UTC
xxxak wrote:
EVE needs a new endgame goal

How about New Eden domination? That would keep you going for a copule of months.
Gindack
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-04-24 20:14:26 UTC
Its nice to be the 1%
DonHel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-04-24 20:28:26 UTC
END GAME?? How did you aquire this titan use anyhow... have you been playing eve long? END GAME? bio mass pls
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#13 - 2012-04-24 20:32:02 UTC
They need to add cap hulls and diversify their rolls like we do with every other class of ship. It's not hard to understand that conceptually. Should give vets plenty to train up once introduced. It's the only solution, and only a matter of time imho.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-04-24 20:37:34 UTC
xxxak wrote:
The solution? EVE needs a new endgame goal.
New? It would have to have an old one for that to make sense.

Your problem does not exist.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#15 - 2012-04-24 20:46:07 UTC
EVE end game is something else than just a ship to skill.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-04-24 20:56:21 UTC
xxxak wrote:
The devs made a mistake when they nerfed supercarriers and now titans. The mistake was simple.

Nerds play EVE. Nerds are gearheads. They took away gear coolfactor without replacing it with new coolfactor toys (Tier 3 BC?).

So far, it hasn't totally destroyed the game (yet), but it's only a matter of time.

The solution? EVE needs a new endgame goal. I'm not sure what that should be, but it should be centered around gear and coolfactor.








(Insert response to whining tears about how EVE has no endgame, its a sandbox, bla bla bla).



But EVE doesnt have an End game. EVE isnt Wow. Wow has an endgame. Stop compairing wow to EVE (Strawman I know, but still)

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-04-24 21:03:35 UTC
xxxak wrote:
The devs made a mistake when they nerfed supercarriers and now titans. The mistake was simple.

Nerds play EVE. Nerds are gearheads. They took away gear coolfactor without replacing it with new coolfactor toys (Tier 3 BC?).

So far, it hasn't totally destroyed the game (yet), but it's only a matter of time.

The solution? EVE needs a new endgame goal. I'm not sure what that should be, but it should be centered around gear and coolfactor.








(Insert response to whining tears about how EVE has no endgame, its a sandbox, bla bla bla).

... so, why is the "endgame" some not-so-precious titans and carriers?

honestly, only little kids are "gearheads", any TRUE geek/nerd knows bragging rights can only come form defeating a "gearhead" who thinks hes invincible with statistically inferior equipment, if only to further reinforce the claim that you are smarter and/or more intelligent (there IS a f=difference) than the aforementioned "gearhead".

i for one will never fly anything larger then a carrier, adn then a carrier only in support of my corp, i ahve no wish or need to fly anything alrger, ebcause they are BORING, its funner to go above 15 m/s.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#18 - 2012-04-24 21:09:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobiaz
Ships aren't goals. Maybe for a short while perhaps, but soon they get replaced by wanting to be someone important, famous or helpful in an alliance powerhouse holding regions in null, a rich and succesful WH-corporation, or a market-leading industrial giant. Or just top the killboards being a pseudo-pirate.

Ships are just tools, and the ones that think they are goals are tools themselves.

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XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
#19 - 2012-04-24 21:16:02 UTC
I thought end-game was when you actively play about 2 weeks a year just to keep your accounts up for poasting.

The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.

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Twulf
Purple Void Corporation
LinkNet
#20 - 2012-04-24 21:20:23 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:
xxxak wrote:
The devs made a mistake when they nerfed supercarriers and now titans. The mistake was simple.

Nerds play EVE. Nerds are gearheads. They took away gear coolfactor without replacing it with new coolfactor toys (Tier 3 BC?).

So far, it hasn't totally destroyed the game (yet), but it's only a matter of time.

The solution? EVE needs a new endgame goal. I'm not sure what that should be, but it should be centered around gear and coolfactor.








(Insert response to whining tears about how EVE has no endgame, its a sandbox, bla bla bla).



But EVE doesnt have an End game. EVE isnt Wow. Wow has an endgame. Stop compairing wow to EVE (Strawman I know, but still)


I am so sick of seeing this crap. Sandbox or not it has an End game, every video game ever made has an end game. PERIOD.
At some point in any game Sandbox or not you will have finished all the content given by the developers, end of story.

Sandbox games just allow you to avoid the end game or allow players to create content on top of what the developers have created but that does not change the fact that the game had an end game.

In EVE, end game is once you have faction with all the factions you want, all the Skills you want, all the ships you want and all you have left is pvp. Sure the game is not over but you have done everything you wanted with the developers content and now are just creating your own.
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