Market Discussions

Its not inflation thats driving the prices up. People are ignorant.

Eve sandbox working as intended. Player content is player driven, player controlled and should stay that way. Dont like it? Form a powerful force and take it for yourself, thats how it happened in the first place.

Not flooding the market. CCP has pointed out how little they generate while nullsec posted lies about overwhelming incursion income taking over the game.

Nope it's about punishing those who dare not go into the endless moon goo CTAs or sit in afk cloak infested systems. Incursions are providing an alternative until CCP can get that festering pile of dog crap fixed and that makes it the enemy.

So instead of this crap calling itself fixes for incursions (Which do nothing that needs to be done for them as usual) how about CCP takes some time to fix the real issues before there really is an OTEC effort that isn't price trolling.

What part hasn't ppl understood that all this inflation and most of goonswarm action have the sole purpose to inflate everything in eve so that ppl swimming in loads of isk are forced to spend it and remove billions from the game?

I don't doubt this is somewhat conluded with CCP itself (or certain CCP members), in a few months when plenty of ISK leaves the game things will get back to normal...

…and they they were (and still are) flooding the market. Being the third largest faucet kind of disqualifies it from being described as “little”.

Agreed. Incursions need to pay out pretty much no ISK at all and have a completely different reward structure altogether.

Moved from General Discussion.

Yes surely it is because of cloaks that small groups do not have Tech moons and not because of our bigger-than-your-alliance capital fleets and 4x bigger-than-your-alliance subcapital fleets.

People been making Incursions the strawman arguement so that thier gameplay doesn't get nerfed for the past 6 months. After the Incursion nerf expect to still see HUGE inflation and peeps continually trying to blame Incursions. OTEC, Hulkageddon, the Drone alloy nerf: almost everything materials ( except nano ribbons ) wise is seeing a supply side drop.

That is why AFK cloaking needs to be balanced. I would personally rather it be my idea of grid timing but even a simple timer would be better than what we have now

That, and "we" (Random Small Alliance or Corp) have to fight through these horrific settings calling themselves corp and POS permissions while bigger alliances just spend more to manage risk and demand full API to be part of the "cool club

These and more combine to make nullsec the steaming pile of dog crap it is today.


There are some simple urgent "band-aids" That can reduce the dog crap factor atleast for a short time

#1 Cloak timer based on inactivity. (Not changing direction is a good indicator after plenty of warning) Yes I know it is crap because the idiots will use macros but they can be reported in the meantime. Having to warp off grid and back is better but we need an urgent fix faster than a tough one on AFK cloakers atleast until a proper complete new system is in place

#2 Tech, and other focused moon harvested materials removed from said moons and added to the loot tables of all rats in EvE based on security level. This will raise hell and could crash a bit of the market but it works as a temporary solution until proper ring mining is put into place. This is NOT the same as drone alloys as moon mining is passive and not a profession outside of a few moon logistics users

#3 A quick and dirty "Stuff" module for items and ships combined that can be onlined and offlined by POS operator but belongs only to a single or small group of characters. I know this will at once make POS a bit OP yet vastly reduces the amount of roles and permissions given to random members. An alternative is a true fix allowing moveable sections inside current arrays with single member permissions but I suspect if they have to do that they mise well go on and make the full modular POS

In my opinion this will at once reduce the huge influence large alliances have over EVE. Goonswarm says they use moon goo to fund their SRF (Which I generally believe) I hope they and other large alliances will see these as a positive impact on the game that will create vast new opportunities for good fights especially once proper fixes are in place. And serve to enable their members to feel even more involved with the success of their alliance

In my opinion these changes will also cause a flood of new people into nullsec. I would then like to later see changes to enable more behind the lines fights (Fights not ganks that AFK-Cloaking is today). A great deal more nullsec-nullsec wormholes would see good fights all over the place.

And there's the "Well if you just balance afk cloaking..." argument.

I have a newsflash for you: They could remove afk cloaking and in these hypothetical scenarios where all income is derived from mining and ratting, you would still get absolutely wrecked, by the very same "afk cloakers" you whine so much about, because they would adapt and continue to use asymmetric warfare to terrorize your carebears.