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Active tanked Scorpion Navy Issue PVP fit - discuss

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Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
#1 - 2012-04-23 05:34:35 UTC
Yes, I know it's not ideal. That's not the point. It's a design exercise.

Mandatory rules: T2 Siege launchers (full rack), 1 propulsion mod, 1 warp disruptor. Everything else is open. Points will be awarded for cost effectiveness- i.e. anyone can slap tons of faction on something and make it work well; I'm looking for maximum performance with reasonable cost. A little faction or deadspace here and there won't hurt, but don't post an all officer fit SNI. P

And again, let's not point out how "you're doing it wrong". I'm well aware of buffer tanks and the various limitations of PVP with a shield tanked ship.

So... game on!
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#2 - 2012-04-23 07:47:33 UTC
Tried it, runs into PG issues, then CPU issues, needs faction because of fitting difficulty, if you faction it up to around 1 bil you get a 1.2k dps / 1k dps tank, but it's Torps...so yeah, huge vulnerability to small things, I only had point + web for utility, no way to smash a tp on there without losing quite abit of tank.
ACE81
Sacred Sacrifice
#3 - 2012-04-23 09:38:59 UTC
Maybe this?

[Scorpion Navy Issue, pvppass]
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Warp Disruptor II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
[empty high slot]

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I

Crellion
Nano Rhinos
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#4 - 2012-04-23 13:54:45 UTC
ACE81 wrote:
Maybe this?

[Scorpion Navy Issue, pvppass]
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Warp Disruptor II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
[empty high slot]

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I



1/10 troll
Korg Tronix
Mole Station Nursery
#5 - 2012-04-23 22:54:41 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap61WvEKPF4&feature=BFa&list=PLCD8A26F58302B23A

This video has what seems to be a fairly decent fit, you can kinda work most of it out from watching although a couple of mods are hidden. He also makes no mention of booster alts in the video I think so not sure what affect that might have.

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#6 - 2012-04-24 00:12:18 UTC  |  Edited by: FT Diomedes
Pure EFT-warrioring here... 895 tank, 960 DPS. Paid no attention to cost, but tried to fit only faction stuff when necessary for fitting. It's a relatively tight fit. Missile rigs won't fit due to lack of CPU. I'm really not sure about the rigs in general. Most worried about lack of cap and missile range. It seems like some of these fights against other BS take longer than the 30-60 second fights I'm used to for frigate PvP.

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Scorpion - PvP]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Warp Disruptor II

Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
[empty high slot]

Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I


Vespa EC-600 x5
Warrior II x5

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Reppyk
The Black Shell
#7 - 2012-04-24 00:47:24 UTC
Mors Sanctitatis wrote:
Yes, I know it's not ideal. That's not the point. It's a design exercise.

Mandatory rules: T2 Siege launchers (full rack), 1 propulsion mod, 1 warp disruptor. Everything else is open. Points will be awarded for cost effectiveness- i.e. anyone can slap tons of faction on something and make it work well; I'm looking for maximum performance with reasonable cost. A little faction or deadspace here and there won't hurt, but don't post an all officer fit SNI. P

And again, let's not point out how "you're doing it wrong". I'm well aware of buffer tanks and the various limitations of PVP with a shield tanked ship.

So... game on!
[Scorpion Navy Issue, pvp prop]
Internal Force Field Array I
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Warp Disruptor II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Domination Shield Boost Amplifier
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Invulnerability Field II
Domination Shield Boost Amplifier

Dread Guristas Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Dread Guristas Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Dread Guristas Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Dread Guristas Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Dread Guristas Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Dread Guristas Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I

Warning : you wont do sh1t on cruisers and smaller.

1k dps/1k tank before overload and implants (and links).
BCU factions : MOAR DEEPEESSSS and less cpu
Faction shield booster: the bare minimum, get a ded one if you have the money
Domi amplifer x2 : less CPU. They are cheap.
Meta4 web : don't fly a torp boat without a web. Never ever.
DG siege launchers : better than the T2 siege, even with the spec maxed. I got a bunch of them at 30M/piece.


PS : you really really want a tengu ganglink.

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Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-04-24 01:22:30 UTC
You can fit it up like this for stationgames and hisec war crap (so long as you don't need a prop mod) and get 1100 DPS with 1.6k active tank - without any crystals, heat or boosters, costing only about 700mil. With crystals, heat, and boosters, that goes up to >4600, and even more if you put in a few extra hundred millions to get a deadspace tank. Shocked
ACE81
Sacred Sacrifice
#9 - 2012-04-24 06:19:58 UTC
Crellion wrote:
ACE81 wrote:
Maybe this?

[Scorpion Navy Issue, pvppass]
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Warp Disruptor II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
[empty high slot]

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I



1/10 troll


So what is so Troll about it?
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#10 - 2012-04-24 11:56:22 UTC
ACE81 wrote:
Crellion wrote:
ACE81 wrote:
Maybe this?

[Scorpion Navy Issue, pvppass]
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Warp Disruptor II
Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
[empty high slot]

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I



1/10 troll


So what is so Troll about it?
It's a mix between an active tank and a buffer tank. And it sucks.

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !

ACE81
Sacred Sacrifice
#11 - 2012-04-25 04:20:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ACE81
It might Suck in your opinion but its not a troll, Besides my fit cost a heck of a lot less then the one you proposed and it fits his requirements of full rack T2 Siege launchers, prop mod and disruptor and it gives two slots to be creative if one dose not want the extra buffer.

Oh and Thanks for the answer :)
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#12 - 2012-04-25 05:30:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
HI
3 domination torp launchers
3 meta 4's torp launchers
1 meta 4 NOS

MED
proto trype 100MN micro
T2 scram
T2 web
T2 heavy cap boster(with navy 800's)
T2 inv feild
T2 XL sheild booster
T2 shield boost amp
T2 SeBo

LOW
2X T2 BCU's
T2 DC
T2 RCU

RIGS
ancillary curent router
anti-em
Anti-therm

DRONES
2 berserker SW-900(web drones)
2 Valkyrie TP-600
1 Warrior TP-300


with a clone that has some PG and crystals imps in it
I don't use T2 because i can't yet so just pretend you would use them over my fit it has a little space yet to fit them in.(buy eather having better skills/imps or droping the NOS for a nuet or smaller nos

thats what i mess around in one im board or just blueballing folks
you can take the SeBo out for a TP if ya like. With the drones, and your webber and a TP over the Sebo you can smack little stuff, but with out the SeBo they tend to just warp before you can lock them. The drones DO make a diffrence in proformance!
only using the faction launchers becaus they "fell" off a SB and i picked them up.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#13 - 2012-04-25 07:25:02 UTC
I just stayed with T2 Modules, Faction stuff could improve this. 948 DPS, 1077 DPS with Drones, 861 DPS Tank

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Active]

Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
[Empty High slot]

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I


Valkyrie II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#14 - 2012-04-25 15:16:16 UTC
ACE81 wrote:
It might Suck in your opinion but its not a troll, Besides my fit cost a heck of a lot less then the one you proposed and it fits his requirements of full rack T2 Siege launchers, prop mod and disruptor and it gives two slots to be creative if one dose not want the extra buffer.

Oh and Thanks for the answer :)
Hero tank with only one invu, one EM rig and no shield amplifier is bad. Just bad.


The next fit has a scramble.
The next one has an ab, a 20km point, no web, a lol-meta4 shield booster, 3 invus and no shield amplifier (ever heard of stacking penalties ? no ?) and don't start me with the rigs.

Wow wow wow.

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !