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Tracking disruption -> Weapon Disruption

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Efraya
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#1 - 2012-04-23 13:37:49 UTC
At fanfest there was talk of changing tracking disruption to weapon disruption so that they would affect missiles aswell. Is there anymore information on this topic?

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-04-23 14:38:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Skippermonkey
well, seeing as tracking disruptors now work on missiles, i'd say that its a done deal?

edit - im sure this change happened, but im looking through the past patchnotes and cant find it :(

wait... they mentioned they were going to change this at fanfest, i guess its not happened yet

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Vito Antonio
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-04-23 14:57:08 UTC
Efraya wrote:
At fanfest there was talk of changing tracking disruption to weapon disruption so that they would affect missiles aswell. Is there anymore information on this topic?


Indeed, those missile incursion fleets and titans are totally dominating eve.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#4 - 2012-04-23 15:11:28 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
well, seeing as tracking disruptors now work on missiles, i'd say that its a done deal?

edit - im sure this change happened, but im looking through the past patchnotes and cant find it :(

wait... they mentioned they were going to change this at fanfest, i guess its not happened yet

Good job.

No, it hasn't happened. Us Sentinel pilots are looking forward to it when it does, though. Heeeeere, Drakey! Twisted

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Efraya
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#5 - 2012-04-23 15:15:09 UTC
Is it confirmed that this will go ahead or was it just speculation?

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#6 - 2012-04-23 15:20:35 UTC
Efraya wrote:
Is it confirmed that this will go ahead or was it just speculation?

I've never seen confirmation, but it's far more feasible in the short term than many of CCP's ideas, it fits into one of their Inferno themes (beefed up EW), and is somewhat already halfway there (the TD skill is called Weapon Disruption, after all).

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Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-23 15:22:40 UTC
Would be nice... Well not if you fly missile boats, but does buff TD's making them more useful.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#8 - 2012-04-23 15:34:19 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
well, seeing as tracking disruptors now work on missiles, i'd say that its a done deal?

edit - im sure this change happened, but im looking through the past patchnotes and cant find it :(

wait... they mentioned they were going to change this at fanfest, i guess its not happened yet

Good job.

No, it hasn't happened. Us Sentinel pilots are looking forward to it when it does, though. Heeeeere, Drakey! Twisted



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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#9 - 2012-04-23 15:43:41 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:
well, seeing as tracking disruptors now work on missiles, i'd say that its a done deal?

edit - im sure this change happened, but im looking through the past patchnotes and cant find it :(

wait... they mentioned they were going to change this at fanfest, i guess its not happened yet

Good job.

No, it hasn't happened. Us Sentinel pilots are looking forward to it when it does, though. Heeeeere, Drakey! Twisted



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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-04-23 16:20:19 UTC
Missiles have enough wrong with them already. So no.
Ryker Hunter
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-24 22:42:28 UTC
Kattshiro wrote:
Would be nice... Well not if you fly missile boats, but does buff TD's making them more useful.


It will make the curse and pilgrim a BEAST compared to what it is now considering most drakes in 0.0 or low sec are passive fitted so it would make it so you would have a chance of taking on a passive drake.
Ryker Hunter
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-04-24 22:44:08 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Missiles have enough wrong with them already. So no.


Considering you have the Drake which is a pretty awesome ship in PVP and PVE and also the Tengu that is just plain awesome in PVP and PVE I think those ships need a counter so yeah.
Korg Tronix
Mole Station Nursery
#13 - 2012-04-24 23:09:30 UTC
Ryker Hunter wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Missiles have enough wrong with them already. So no.


Considering you have the Drake which is a pretty awesome ship in PVP and PVE and also the Tengu that is just plain awesome in PVP and PVE I think those ships need a counter so yeah.


I don't think having two awesome ships justifies an affect on every missile ship. That is flawed logic.

Really if they do make missile tds they would need to add the equivalent modules to tracking enhancers etc. for missiles.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#14 - 2012-04-24 23:27:15 UTC
And youd just make TDs the new ECM flavor of the month in one fell swoop. TDs or dual TDs on everything PvP. In missions you get jammed by guris, damped to hell and back by serps and now where you do the least dmg running scourge missiles youd hit how far out? some of those missions have killer TDing.


I can see why people want counters to the drake/tengu PvP fleets and nerf them into oblivion but making TDs OP against every ship type in one fell swoop would NOT do it not even for a second.

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TWHC Assistant
#15 - 2012-04-24 23:33:36 UTC
Did they say how tracking disruption shall effect missiles?

And do we ever get usable defender missile systems?
Nub Sauce
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-04-24 23:41:21 UTC
Seeing as this would make missiles less unique and kill off some of the rock, scissors, paper design of the game, this would be a terrible change to make.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#17 - 2012-04-25 00:51:45 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Did they say how tracking disruption shall effect missiles?

And do we ever get usable defender missile systems?


This was where it fell apart for me. The only stat on a missile launcher is RoF and weapons disruption works on the turet, not the ammo so aside from a refire rate I don't know how they would work.
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-04-25 01:00:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayrendo Karr
Ryker Hunter wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Missiles have enough wrong with them already. So no.


Considering you have the Drake which is a pretty awesome ship in PVP and PVE and also the Tengu that is just plain awesome in PVP and PVE I think those ships need a counter so yeah.

Two good ships does not a viable weapons system make. PS If you pump 3 billion isk into a mach proteus or loki you're gonna get a good ship.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#19 - 2012-04-25 01:20:23 UTC
Ryker Hunter wrote:
Jake Warbird wrote:
Missiles have enough wrong with them already. So no.


Considering you have the Drake which is a pretty awesome ship in PVP and PVE and also the Tengu that is just plain awesome in PVP and PVE I think those ships need a counter so yeah.



Under this logic, Thats like saying that since the amarr/minmatar have awesome battleships (abbadon, tempest, mael), awesome hacs (zealot, vagabond), awesome BC (hurricane/harb), awesome dessies (thrasher), awesome [insert widely used ship here] that all lasers and projectiles should be nerfed into oblivion
Siigari Kitawa
Operation Sleepless
#20 - 2012-04-25 01:42:32 UTC
Why would they do this? Missiles have a hard counter (defenders) lulz.

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