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Next Step after an Interceptor

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Riven Aleem
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-18 10:12:09 UTC
I recently returned to the game and I see that my Crow is not much use these days except as a fleet tackler, but there are everywhere ships (big ones) that do the job better.

Assuming I like the playstyle (high speed, maneuverability and small size) is there anything out there that would manage level 3 missions solo, and would fit in well with a fleet for incursions or level 4-5 missions.

For Information: I have a Drake and Raven, and thus am specialised in missiles. I'd like to stick to missiles, if possible. I also have very high navigation skills, which is why I'd like to stick with something that doesn't just sit there and snipe, or soak while firing missiles.

In a dream world, I'd love to see Tech 3 Interceptor, where the skills and cost required were significantly high, but the reward was proportional.

Finally, I don't mind playing a support role, so if there was a logistic ship, that needed maneuverability, I'd be interested.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#2 - 2012-04-18 10:19:22 UTC
dessy 5 to......
Interdictors is the next on the tree tho they are not like a cepter at all. and only for null sec use.

As far as hulls go dram/daredevil are bouth fast little pew pew ships.

As far as PvE goes....... nothing realy there for ya.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#3 - 2012-04-18 11:02:55 UTC
With regards to PVE Assault Frigates are very capable of doing lvl 3 solo and even doing lvl 4 in a group. Ishkur is nice, Wolf is also very good with AB/AC fittings.

With regards to PVP if you want to keep high-speed but want to add DPS the answer is Slicer, Daredevil, Jaguar, Wolf, Scythe Fleet Issue, Stabber Fleet Issue, Vagabond and Cynabal. With all of them you can easily hit 3000m/s and dish out a decent amount of damage.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-04-18 12:25:56 UTC
Riven Aleem wrote:
I recently returned to the game and I see that my Crow is not much use these days except as a fleet tackler, but there are everywhere ships (big ones) that do the job better.

Assuming I like the playstyle (high speed, maneuverability and small size) is there anything out there that would manage level 3 missions solo, and would fit in well with a fleet for incursions or level 4-5 missions.

For Information: I have a Drake and Raven, and thus am specialised in missiles. I'd like to stick to missiles, if possible. I also have very high navigation skills, which is why I'd like to stick with something that doesn't just sit there and snipe, or soak while firing missiles.

In a dream world, I'd love to see Tech 3 Interceptor, where the skills and cost required were significantly high, but the reward was proportional.

Finally, I don't mind playing a support role, so if there was a logistic ship, that needed maneuverability, I'd be interested.



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VaJayJay69
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-18 12:41:32 UTC
From the sounds of it, for PVP, you would probably enjoy recon ships or maybe scimitar. Both require good management of navigation to keep in one piece while delivering valuable resources to the field.
Riven Aleem
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-04-18 13:02:08 UTC
What do you think of the Hawk? It's missile friendly, and has good shields. Since I trained up a lot in both for my other ships, is it a good ship?

Can you fit it for passive, to spare capacitor allowing me to use low slots for overdrive injector or nanofiber hull?

It has crossed my mind that nobody else mentioned it, is there a reason I can't see from looking at it's specs? From my POV it looks like a decent shield-tanking agile missile boat.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#7 - 2012-04-18 13:18:42 UTC
Riven Aleem wrote:
What do you think of the Hawk? It's missile friendly, and has good shields. Since I trained up a lot in both for my other ships, is it a good ship?

Can you fit it for passive, to spare capacitor allowing me to use low slots for overdrive injector or nanofiber hull?

It has crossed my mind that nobody else mentioned it, is there a reason I can't see from looking at it's specs? From my POV it looks like a decent shield-tanking agile missile boat.


Its a fine ship but also very much like a crow in meany ways just slower tougher and more DPS, I do my guristas story arc's in a missile launcher crow over it though as a speed tank is always best Vs. AI.
It can be fit for range and passive tank but is as good if not better with rockets and an active tank. And in that regard a vengeance is almost better at that job.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-18 16:23:14 UTC
Caldari and agile don't go together.
If you want agile, cross-train to Minmatar.

About the only agile Caldari ships are Harpy. Very good.
Or Hawk. Not so good, but still ok.

CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#9 - 2012-04-18 17:01:56 UTC
Alternately: Cross-train Gallente Frigates V, fly a Taranis instead.

It doesn't fix your "only flying interceptors" issue, but it does neatly solve your "my interceptor is only good as a fleet tackler" issue. 'ranis is pretty boss.
Dibblerette
Solitude-Industries
#10 - 2012-04-18 17:46:45 UTC
Sounds like you might like the Tengu, I'm surprised on one has mentioned it yet. It's a cruiser, so still fairly agile and fast (Especially fast if you take the 100mn PVP route, but that's another thread...) and is one of the best mission boats in the game due to HML's fantastic projection. A healthy active tank plus your speed and small signature allow you to tank lots of rats with no real issues. Just watch out for neuts/webs/scrams, as with any active ship.
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-04-18 17:49:21 UTC
The Malediction is an armor crow. You might like that.
Heun zero
MAYHEM BOYZ
#12 - 2012-04-19 05:15:13 UTC
Dibblerette wrote:
Sounds like you might like the Tengu, I'm surprised on one has mentioned it yet. It's a cruiser, so still fairly agile and fast (Especially fast if you take the 100mn PVP route, but that's another thread...) and is one of the best mission boats in the game due to HML's fantastic projection. A healthy active tank plus your speed and small signature allow you to tank lots of rats with no real issues. Just watch out for neuts/webs/scrams, as with any active ship.


This.


If you're question is caldari Pve your answer is almost always tengu. It is also a good ship for pvp, but also a pretty expensive one (though it has the performance to match).

If you stick to frigate size hulls the Hawk is one of the flavors at your disposal. It's supposed to be pretty good in 1v1 frigate fights and once again for Pve it can easily be fit to solo lvl 3 missions.
To mare
Advanced Technology
#13 - 2012-04-19 11:20:08 UTC
Darthewok wrote:
Caldari and agile don't go together.
If you want agile, cross-train to Minmatar.

About the only agile Caldari ships are Harpy. Very good.
Or Hawk. Not so good, but still ok.

so wrong
caldari ship have almost he same or sometimes even better align time than minmatar ships before mods, minmatar ships just have more speed
Ishanmae
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-19 11:41:59 UTC
Darthewok wrote:
Caldari and agile don't go together.
If you want agile, cross-train to Minmatar.

About the only agile Caldari ships are Harpy. Very good.
Or Hawk. Not so good, but still ok.


I won't argue the first part, I'm far from experienced enough, or cross-trained enough, to try and make a point there.

What I'll say though... Is I've trained for and fitted a Harpy recently... And I positively love it!

I've been re-running the SoE Epic arc in it, and it's been a blast! One-shotting almost every single frig-sized ship in there, and tanking every thing that has been thrown at me without as much as a dent on my shields.

Looking forward to testing it out on higher challenge missions!
Korg Tronix
Mole Station Nursery
#15 - 2012-04-21 20:14:35 UTC
Darthewok wrote:
Caldari and agile don't go together.
If you want agile, cross-train to Minmatar.

About the only agile Caldari ships are Harpy. Very good.
Or Hawk. Not so good, but still ok.


Im fairly sure that the base agility for Caldari and Minmatar t1 ships are the same, they are at least for Drake/Cane.

A very nice Caldari frigate that would be a step up from interceptors, the Hookbill, its relatively fast and thanks to the 5 mids has loads of versatility. That is of course for PVP.

In PvE you cant really go wrong with the standard Caldari line for mission running. Kestrel>Caracal>Drake>Raven.

Caldari actually have some fairly good combat frigates now, the AF buff was very kind to them. The Hawk being boosted enough to push the Hookbill out of the way as a straight up combat ship for example.

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Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-04-22 03:08:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Darthewok
Good point that agility of Caldari is not that slow but the speed is slow.

Basically what I mean to say is:
Caldari and fast don't go together. (Except for the frigate categories.)
If you want fast, cross-train to Minmatar.

CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Darex Nidor
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-04-22 08:33:17 UTC
Raven with MWD and damp tank CoolBlink