EVE General Discussion

recently i had a mining alt ganked in hi sec during a mining op. 'big deal it happens all the time'. a couple of years ago i lost two hulks to a player named HOETHE. it began with him flipping my can and my getting mad and engaging him with 15 drones and a battleship. he was flying a jaguar. little did i know that i was completely out gunned. to my surprise hoethe killed all 15 drones, then he killed my two hulks, and then he commenced to attack my abbadon. while he was attacking my battleship i got an eve mail demanding 50 million isk or he'd blow up my ship. at this point i was laughing my ass off at the complete absurdity of the situation. i sent a reply like yah right. he laughed like i did. i ended talking with hoethe for quite a while and i have to admit even to this day i will look up his character on the killboards to see what he's been up to because i actually respected his skill. even if it did cost me a half billion in ships it was a good laugh and thats what mattered.

the point im making is i chose to engage. with the recent changes ccp made now its just plain **** by 15 million isk cheap ass ships that can kill 300 mil isk ships just to get on the killboards. in truth there is no real skill involved outside a bit of strategy and scouting to setup the gank. the gank itself is over in a matter of seconds. so is it worth it to keep mining? what does it matter right? lets put it into perspective. im one player with 5 alts. i created my own corp and when i started playing eve i chose to follow the mining industry path because to be honest i hate pvp. i was chatting with another player a couple of days ago that is an avid pvp and when i told him i avoid it he got real quiet for a minute then he types back uhhh youve been playing eve for 3 years? yep. and youve never gotten into pvp? nope. then what have you been doing in eve all this time? when i told him mining, industry, research, and missions it boggled his mind. ccp has been so focused on creating situations to put people into conflict that they lost sight of the fact some people prefer not to be involved in it. little 1-4 man corps based in hi sec that just want to be left alone to pursue their own thing without others hassling them. imagine the concept! or maybe you cant?

so what? right? care bear tears blah blah blah

heres the situation. my accounts are all due for renewal in june. i had it in mind to mine over the next 8 weeks to make enough isk to plex my accounts and keep my accounts active. then i got ganked. then its announced hulkageddon 5 is coming and will probably last a month or so. there is much fan fair by players about how great its going to be to gank the care bears. i got news for everyone. i wont be there guys. since i cant mine in peace to make enough isk to plex my accounts i realized there is no sense in having all those accounts. so i am going to cancel four of my five accounts. thats 80 dollars a month real cash that hilmar isnt getting from someone who has played eve for 3 years and doesnt like all the obstacles they have created for me just to mine some ore. if u look on my hangar door there will be a sign

GONE FISHING...

Yup, the only thing I disagree with in this post is that they should change something. You threaten the loss of $80 but for every miner who quits because they -only- like mining and cant there are 10 other people who join and love EVE for the ability to kill them, and everyone else.

It sucks but in the end its just that the game is not for you. Not to say there is anything wrong with not wanting to PvP. But if you don't, its probably not the beeest idea to play :c

Well, even if you ignore PvP combat EVE is still a PvP based game. I used to mine a lot, but only as a means of income not as my source of entertainment.

You should really try to get into PvP, it's fun. If not, can I haz ur stuff?

You were going to PLEX those accounts anyway. And there's always people to buy PLEX, so I don't think 'Hilmar' is losing much by not having YOUR 80 dollars a month of "real cash".

OP, I agree with you.But,there have always been mechanics IRL and otherwise that focus on cheap,throw away stuff to destroy much more expensive crap. If CCP did 'do away' with it, it seems a disservice to people who get their kicks doing the very same thing.


Erm,any chance you read what he wrote?

Darn! I thought this was a thread advocating fishing as a new trade skill.

OP,

I too have limited myself in the industry field for some time now. I started playing EVE a little over 5 years ago. I started in the direction of industry, mining, manufacturing and all the other things that went along with living a peaceful life in space.

Presently I own a Rorqual, hulks, macks, Orca, carriers and JF. Not to mention the alts to operate a small mining fleet. I also have numerous BPOs of ships & things. However all those assets are safely tucked away in an NPC station.

Why you ask?

Some reason the PVP minded people have come to the conclusion that EVE has no place for industrialist. They don't understand the concept of others who wish to live in peace. Not sure why they think that EVE is only suppose to be PVP. I'm not sure why they feel Hi-Sec space was made for attacking defenseless mining ships. I figure if EVE was meant to be PVP only, the industrial side of EVE would have never made it into the game.

But... whatever.

I too despise PVP, but I've dabbled in it the last year with one of my mains. I'm 92% proficient in killing with a little over 400 kills under my belt. Not a single kill on my board is a Hulk... etc. I think I killed one red cyno trying to hot drop the corporation I was with at the time. Any other cynos I went on my merry way knowing I could have... but didn't.

Since I dislike PVP so much I've pretty much kept my accounts going with isk I've earned over the 5 years and cash when needed to keep the accounts training. However, I too may be shutting down all my accounts in the near future. I'm not really enjoying the game that much atm due to the constant attacks by some wanna be pvp'rs looking for easy kills. (Thankfully I've not fallen victim thus far as I do very little mining these days.)

I always thought real PVP was when you engaged in battle against worthy pilots in lo-null sec that had gear to fight back. What the proclaimed pvp'rs of today are doing is liken to sitting in a deer stand with a high caliber rifle with deer feed (asteroid belts) laying under their deer stand, better yet, having 20 of their buddies with machine guns hanging out in the trees all around the deer bait. Just not much challenge the way I see it.


Well... that's my two isk about the situation. Meh... just a game anywhoo and it's spring here. Time for some fun in the sun!

Best of luck!

A balance should be struck, certainly in high sec the stakes should favour the miners since concord would react faster and harsher as high sec is a safish environment.

From what I hear concord will also repair shields and armour on aggressed targets now. I find that a good solution if its not overpowered but a standard amount of shieldrep.

Offcourse if your a miner and you are really wanting to protect yourself why not deploy a guardian yourself?

Why would CCP do anything? Its barge pilots fault for not fitting a tank.