Ships & Modules

[Abaddon, Neut]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
ECCM - Radar II
ECCM - Radar II

Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I



Threw this together in about 5 seconds flat. Neuts 4800 / 24 sec, has 229k EHP without implants or boosts. 21 cap boosters in cargohold, plus 6 ready loaded in each cap booster, means you'll last a while. Could do with an MWD really, but has a little CPU issue. Replace 1 ECCM with a 100mn MWD and you need +2% CPU. More efficient neuting that a Domi (hurr durr, but a neut Domi does DPS. Your job isn't to do DPS. It's to neut) and much cheaper than a Bhaal. Could perhaps do with more resists, but I cba messing around trying to optimise EHP. If you want a fit, try experimenting with it yourself. Easy.
From what I've heard, Bhaal's are great in WH space where they can't get hot dropped by PL.

HAHAHAHAHA

You sir fail at reading comprehension. Come try again.

As a hint, I was never recommending a bhaal. And I was extolling the virtues of a neut domi. Maybe I didn't use enough to make that clear for you.

Well if you're flying as part of a small gang then you normally want speed and agility. Dominix isn't exactly the best for this. So get a Curse, if flying in a small gang. And I read small gang as 3-6 people (including yourself). So it's likely going to be Cruiser/BC, because of aforementioned speed/agility.

Posting to confirm that any fleets with bhaals in make for easy kills and definitely wont have any capitals on standby.

Another important factor to consider is the makeup of your pilots. Not everyone has been playing X years and is cross trained into mutliple race's of ships.

I have flown a neut domi in our fleets. Why did I vs a neut Baddon or curse or bhaal? Because I can't fly any amarr. We needed as much neuting on the field at the time and this was the best neuting option I could bring.

I would venture to guess the OP that started this thread probably asked also because he can fly a Domi, and maybe not anything else listed in the replies.

Not all small gangs are nano gangs and a lot of them aren't even what most people would think of as 'proper gangs'. The best ones start out with someone saying something like "I'm headed to Tama in a osprey, who's coming with me... bring what ever you have fit". The neut domi is very good in small gangs where you don't need a dedicated neut ship but do need dps, it's also very good as a solo ship.

While a baddon may be able to refit if you have a carrier on the field, without one you are stuck in the neut configuration just as much as a domi is. Also, while a small gang in 0.0 is generally in something fast and manuverable, fast and manuverable isn't really that useful in other situations - ex:

lowsec on gates (if your targets are already blinky or are wartargets)

in WH's where engaging on a WH generally happens in about a 10-15km bubble, and manuverability generally isn't quite as important, and in a small 5 man gang a neut domi is a lot more useful than a neut legion/curse

Also, do remember that there are some small gang fights where there aren't logi's, just local reps. I know, I know, they are getting rarer, but you still do find them occasionally (again, mostly in WH space)

-Arazel