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"Ship rebalancing" in Escalation/Inferno- when will we get it on SISI?

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Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
#1 - 2012-04-19 04:39:55 UTC
John Lander (Senior Producer of Eve) made mention of "ship balancing" that is due for Escalation and Inferno. When are we going to get to test the changes? The implementation date for Escalation is less than a week away and the changes aren't on the test server for the players to vet and advise CCP if there have been any catastrophic errors in design (of which historically, there have been far too many).

So CCP, when are we going to be able to test the design changes? A week is far too little time to effectively test the changes, give feedback and iterate on the design a few times. Additionally, even if there are no changes for Escalation, the amount of time between Escalation and Inferno in May is still too little time for there to be any effective testing and iteration on the game design.

Prediction: CCP makes changes, gives players little or no time to provide feedback, players provide feedback and then CCP does what it was going to do anyway, ignoring any/all feedback.

Intelligence shouldn't be free.   Mining, reloaded.   ADDICTED.

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#2 - 2012-04-19 04:44:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
The ship re-balancing is going to be a slow burn class by class. its not going to be done for inferno. Read the blog about it again, more slowly.
Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
#3 - 2012-04-19 04:48:48 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
The ship re-balancing is going to be a slow burn class by class. its not going to be done for inferno. Read the blog about it again, more slowly.


Any of it, no matter how small, should be on the test server as soon as possible. Preferably yesterday. Read my original post more slowly.

Intelligence shouldn't be free.   Mining, reloaded.   ADDICTED.

Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#4 - 2012-04-19 04:51:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Roll Sizzle Beef
Mors Sanctitatis wrote:

Any of it, no matter how small, should be on the test server as soon as possible. Preferably yesterday. Read my original post more slowly.


Cant test changes on SiSi for things that don't exist for escalation. Wait for the blogs and wait for the changes which were "soon™". So don't have an aneurysm about testing time, they know major changes like how ships fly is a big pill for players.
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-19 05:23:33 UTC
On Sisi: Tengu Offensive Subsystem now gives + damage to all missile types c: c: c: Never flying another ship ever again.

Ferox #1
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-04-19 05:31:23 UTC
Why aren't you in a Ferox?
You have brought shame and dishonour upon us all, Kietay.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#7 - 2012-04-19 06:05:31 UTC
Kietay Ayari wrote:
On Sisi: Tengu Offensive Subsystem now gives + damage to all missile types c: c: c: Never flying another ship ever again.


They made T3 Tengu's's better? What's next giving T3's even more command bonuses to further bury the command ships?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-04-19 06:47:03 UTC
Kietay Ayari wrote:
On Sisi: Tengu Offensive Subsystem now gives + damage to all missile types c: c: c: Never flying another ship ever again.

Yeah, cause that's the kind of rebalancing we needed. Roll

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Sobach
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-04-19 06:56:33 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Kietay Ayari wrote:
On Sisi: Tengu Offensive Subsystem now gives + damage to all missile types c: c: c: Never flying another ship ever again.

Yeah, cause that's the kind of rebalancing we needed. Roll


except you all got trolled by Kietay :P

unless he's using a secret sisi build, tengu subsystem bonus still only boost kin missiles :P
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-04-19 07:25:27 UTC
Yeah well, our fault for not checking. :P

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-19 08:11:41 UTC
Mors Sanctitatis wrote:
Prediction: CCP makes changes, gives players little or no time to provide feedback, players provide feedback and then CCP does what it was going to do anyway, ignoring any/all feedback.


Are you new here? This is how every expansion works.
Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue
#12 - 2012-04-20 01:19:43 UTC
Vaal Erit wrote:
Mors Sanctitatis wrote:
Prediction: CCP makes changes, gives players little or no time to provide feedback, players provide feedback and then CCP does what it was going to do anyway, ignoring any/all feedback.


Are you new here? This is how every expansion works.


Quite the contrary, hence I know what is going to happen lol.

Intelligence shouldn't be free.   Mining, reloaded.   ADDICTED.

Boomhaur
#13 - 2012-04-20 12:49:09 UTC
All I know is that I better get a freaking working door this time.

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-04-20 12:54:55 UTC
Boomhaur wrote:
All I know is that I better get a freaking working door this time.


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CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2012-04-20 13:09:55 UTC
Titan balance fixes are already on Singularity Smile
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#16 - 2012-04-20 13:18:21 UTC
What about the entire racial DD and BC skill structure? When does that get on Sisi?

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#17 - 2012-04-20 13:39:43 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
What about the entire racial DD and BC skill structure? When does that get on Sisi?

When they are near finished with ship rebalance, or at least the BCs (along with a new dessie if they can think of one).
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
#18 - 2012-04-20 15:02:52 UTC
New dessie that has very little offensive ability, but massive web range bonus.

Pair it with a regular dessie, and you have a proper anti-frigate/interceptor defense.
Lord FunkyMunky
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-04-20 15:56:51 UTC
wait is the titan balance the only thing happening in escalation?!?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#20 - 2012-04-20 17:15:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Esan Vartesa wrote:
New dessie that has very little offensive ability, but massive web range bonus.

Pair it with a regular dessie, and you have a proper anti-frigate/interceptor defense.


A good possibility. Other interesting possibilities include:

True Destroyer Class

Heavy Bomber: Non-cloaking but with two bomb launchers, AF resists, and several small weapon mounts for self defense.

Picket Destroyer: Has the ability to tractor Sentry Drones in a bubble around itself and make them mobile.

Interdiction Destroyer: AF resists, bonused similar to an Interdictors focused point only but with longer range, no bubble capability.

Missile Destroyer: AF resists, Cruise Missile platform, heavily bonused toward Cruise missile speed, explosion velocity, explosion radius. Designed to be very effective against fast targets with small sig radius at long range.

Point Defense Destroyer: AF resists, only ship able to mount a module that allows defenders to be automatically fired at ALL missiles or combat drones inbound on it's FLEET.

Corvette Class: Destroyer Hull but specializing in speed and low sig radius rather than resists.

Corvette Class: Optimized for close range small weapons, near interceptor speeds achieved with After Burner bonuses.

Heavy Corvette: A Destroyer sized version of the Tier 3 Battle Cruisers, fast, long range, able to mount Cruiser sized weapons.

EW Corvette: Fast, AB bonuses as per above, optimized to use racial EW and/or boosting electronics of gang mates.

Logistics Corvette: Fast, AB bonuses as per above, uses specialized mods to significantly increase a ships own repair capability. Makes vessels with repair rate bonuses very difficult to take down.

Area Denial Corvette: Fast, AB bonuses per above, bonused to efficiently run multiple small (range and damage bonused) smartbombs indefinately.


Just a few options I've been thinking about for Destroyers. Smile

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