EVE General Discussion

Thats quite a rant about how a boost to mining is destroying your game.

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Perfectly true, but to a degree. First, it's not about just combat. A level 1 can trade just as well as a level 80 in most other MMOs. Not so in EVE. All facets of the game are affected by SP. Someone with more SP will produce quicker, research faster, scan quicker, trade easier, kill faster, etc. You folks can dance around this as much as you want, but it is a self-evident fact. Older characters can do more things, and better. Increased effectiveness coupled with versatility. A new character simply cannot compete. And while 5% in one area won't win you the fight, 5% in twenty areas will virtually guarantee it. A new guy just can't compete, not until years down the line, where you start getting into somewhat esoteric skills that not everyone needs.

Yes, you could max a frigate and fight another frigate and be on equal footing. This breaks down as soon as the older character sees you in a frigate, and comes back in a destroyer. And so on. And while perhaps titan is a bit much, there's T2 and T3 versions of ships already, and nobody likes to be looking at a few years of training before truly being competitive in a perfectly even 1v1 scenario.

And while I agree that in the grand scheme of things it's not such a big deal, as you are much more likely to encounter a 5v1 than a 1v1 in this game. But I guarantee you this is something every new player thinks about. And for many people, as soon as this realization sets in, it is an immediate deal breaker. And while I fully admit at some point there's a theoretical point where a newer character will catch up and be identical to an old one, I believe it takes something like 20 years worth of training to get to that point. So for most players, the working assumption is that you will always be playing with a handicap against older players. Which makes the system flawed at the core.

What makes it all worse is that the old hands, who claim the advantage is really minimal or even nonexistent will fight tooth and nail to preserve that advantage. Which is what makes the whole situation so comical. People claim that it's really not a big deal, and then come at you frothing at the mouth as soon as you suggest that if it's no big deal, it wouldn't be too bad to normalize things a little to make the field a little more even for newcomers. If advantage is as minimal as you claim it to be, what are you so worried about?

If you get everything handed to you right away then you have nothing to work towards or look forwards to. Also this is why new players in goons tend to not quit.

Probing isnt SP intensive.

Anyway, saving probe layouts would be cool, as would let me determine what the default radius is (allways have to set it to maximun anyway).

Even without it, the hot keys let you move and resize scan radius fairly easy. I dont think it take me more than 10-15 minutes to probe an entire system.

My answer from the second post in this thread still stands.

EVE has a reputation for being difficult to learn, confusing to play, full of griefing and scamming, inhabited by neckbeards and sociopaths and about as much fun as doing your taxes.

Well, I allways felt like trying factional warfare, and somewhat think it would be only natural that you started already in some kind of empire conflict.

That would give players more right at start to go from content and social wise, with objectives and maybe fleet combat after people invite you to their factional warfare fleets (that even exist?), because there would be a war rght there to be fought and you are the new hero on the block!

Then one would move outside the war to neutral entities if one desired to be purelly a trader or care for its own private bussiness/wars.

Dot know why, but it makes sense to me....

Also, let's put on our big boy pants and ask the question:

Sure, time dilation is "neat". The more relevant question is whether 80% of Eve players get anything from it.

So does high-sec get anything from Time Dilation?

No?

Neither does Wormhole space either.

Basically, High-Sec is just paying for Null Sec toys. Only people who are cool with funding toys for other people and development of two other MMO's while being completely ignored themselves are going to be happy with the CCP "strategy".

Though when CCP turns it's attention to players besides super-alliances engaging in Blob warfare....

IT REMOVES CONTENT.

That is what the removal of skin-able animals.... I mean drones.... is. The whole region is going to become worthless and CCP Dev giggles.

SUPPOSEDLY the average EVE player is like 35+