Ships & Modules

Wow, no reaction -- no comment? Comeone I need some feedback!

Ok, ok.

Here's the problem. 100mn AB setups on a Tengu work because a Tengu can project damage over a fairly wide range and doesn't need to maneuver to hit targets. The Loki you're proposing has a 30+ second align time and an effective range of under 10km -- which means you'll never, ever be doing damage with your prop mod on. And good luck keeping your scram on anyone.

That wouldn't be a problem -- except that it will take you most of those 30 seconds to get up to speed in the first place -- which means you never want to turn your prop mod off.

The rest of the fit is just as jumbled. The cloak/probe thing implies a ganker, but you wouldn't want oversized prop for that. You mention incursions, but nothing on this fit just plain wouldn't work out for that (aren't incursion Lokis web toys?).

Basically, you need to figure out what you want to do with the ship and then back up and build it ground up. If you want oversize prop, you'll want to see what you can do with missiles and artillery. If you want a cloaky ganker, forget oversized prop mod and go for damage and probably bonused webs. If you want incursions, go for webs and better resists.

Without a neut or a web, aren't you asking to get kited by frigs?

Care to share your fit?

That has to be by far one of the ugliest most **** fit loki I have ever seen in my life, a linked armor cane that cost 60 mil would destroy the hell out of your 2+ bil ship solo


Oh god its ugly, dont go posting terrible fits like that to new people, theyre going to think youre for real.


OTT : Cloaky lokis are horrible, just dont do it, only thing they can do is kill shitfit ratters, appart from that theyre pretty horrible.

Try the Lokibond, its like a really sexy Vaga

[Loki, Lokibond ]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Republic Fleet 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Dark Blood Warp Disruptor

425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization


Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5


Shield Lokis are kiting ships IMO, use that speed and falloff, dont sit in scram range its not good for your health, this thing does 500DPS with barrage out to 40, use that, Heat the point and let rip, EC-300s for GTFO, neut for frigs, good buffer and speed, Snakes/Loki boosts arent needed but are very helpful ,Tengu boosts nice too.

Dont fit CCCs on a PVP ship, unless its a logi or carrier.

(Oh and if you have the Isk to blow, shiny Invuls, an RF point, RF Gyros and a shiny Prop mod are all good additions)

Moar Edit;

Remember to heat the Prop mod, this things best aspect is its GTFO, use that, its sexy and will save your shiny so much more often than being cloaky.

AND DONT CHILL IN SCRAM RANGE ITS BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH

Minny and Gallente recons are dangerous, only engage them when alone and even then, probably dont, remember its always hot drop o'clock.

Also, a shiny neut is good for the extra range.

1 more time for good measure SCRAMS ARE BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH, A COUPLE OF ARMOUR CANES WILL KILL YOU IF THEY SCRAM YOU, DONT GET SCRAMMED

Also, being capped out will kill you, you can take an LSE off and fit a Cap Booster, or switch out for 220s and use the augmented cap sub, just be mindful of your cap at all times, pulse the MWD, you want to have enough cap to be able to disengage if things go **** up.

If you fancy something a little moar shiny actually than my previous fit, check out my Perma MWD Loki on BC, its newly posted but already has some decent up rates.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/60213-Perma-MWD-Lokibond.html

^linkage^

This guy must be trolling with that fit. A thorax can do that at a tiny fraction of the price with just tech 2 modules, and is insurable. The only benefit of that tech 3 ship over the thorax is the covert ops cloaking device. But, you don't have a probe launcher fit on it. It's entertaining you need a prober alt to get what should be a prober on a target. You may as well make it a full combat ship and get substantially more DPS and tank out of it.

You did read the bit where I'd said what I'd built this ship for? My input, and fit, into this thread was because the OP sounded like he needed a ship to take out plex runners in null, which is similar to what I do in lo-sec. (and you skipped past the dual web pvp naga flown by a top ranked pilot then?)



Again you are wrong - I would go so far as to say you are now talking out your a**

Hurricane

1. Your assuming I'd be daft enough to engage a pvp cane that has his legion/command ship link booster in system, but lets say I did
2. Loki has larger cargo hold than 'cane
3. With Hail (unsuprisingly this is what I'd shoot at a cane) we're looking at over 400dps from the Loki
4. You cant get 100k EHP (against explosive) on a 'cane while sporting a rack of 220's, 2 med neuts, a med cap booster, a MWD and a 1600mm plate - even linked
5. Loki is cap stable with Navy 400's, even while double neuted, and can more than tank a cane with just a single unbonused shield resist link from a skirmish loki - need to use heat or a blue pill but that's normal
6. Cap charges including reload time last in excess of 5 minutes (thats 15 in cargo and 3 loaded) 300*400dps = 120,000 oh look your 'canes dead, even allowing for not getting the full dps due to falling out of optimal now and again

Thorax

1. Where can I buy one of these 1250dps tanked Thoraxes? (2*A type med armour reppers with strong exile and heat gives in the region of 600-700 dps tank - with my neut on you - for a grand total of 48 seconds! (this is even using med cap booster with 800's




You know of my scouts? I'm starting to think I may have ganked you ion the past - U mad bro?

Well if he doesn't I win the cap war and he's capped out in just over a minute and a half and unable to apply his two medium neuts