Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It would be a simple button under the Camera Settings. You choose how you want to view the game. From there on will people be able to experience the game in a new view. A view which was used in many other space games in the past. You can turn it on and off whenever you like. More choice means more players can get what they want and because it is the age of 3D games can one not give a game too many perspectives.

CCP should ask themselves: does a game sell better when a player can choose between 1st and 3rd person view?

No. You use the same engine. Should be very little thing to do as the engine already facilitates the structures to rotate the ship and the view simultaneously. You would simply take the vector of the ship needed to render it steady and take it off the vector for rendering the space around it. Should not be more than a few lines of code. What will be more work is to add the GUI element to enable and disable it.

I don't know why exactly, perhaps because i only really started playing with computers since about 1988, but i never really enjoyed Elite all that much.

You had a Commodore? A-W-E-SOME, respect, respect, respect.

Even though i am more of an Amiga nut.


I long for the day, when a new keyboard sized computer, running stably on either AmigaOS or MorphOS comes on the market.
Of course including the custom chips ( although nowadays, they'd probably just be for toying with ).

Ender disagrees with you. =)

I've played dozens of "space games", but keep in mind that EVE is not F-15 fighting a MiG-29, it's a multi-billion dollar naval warship the size of a small country fighting other massive war machines. Thousands of people are responsible for operating these things and fancy maneuvers and pointing your guns with the nose of your ship does not make sense.

Mainframes calculate firing solutions, we're just telling them who we want our weapons to hit. In fast-paced space/aerial combat, your tiny vessel isn't designed for lateral strafing and keeping that low profile and high speed is necessary for them to function. When the day comes for it to be practical to put self-aiming turrets on fighters, dogfighting (which is actually an extraordinarily rare event) will be a thing of the past.

In space, with turrets that cover your entire horizon, which way your ship points up really doesn't make a bit of difference, and in a civilized (I know I'm reaching) like the EVE universe, a little convention would be necessary to keep space travel simple.

Mechanically speaking it makes no difference whatsoever: your ship appears to be aligned one way or another but as an object, as far as I'm aware, is just a sphere with a set of properties. All of the graphics and shiny things is just eye candy. So going along that line of thought, it furthermore makes sense that there is an arbitrary plane for all ships to settle on. Why? Because it makes life and piloting simpler. I manually pilot. A lot. I fly frigates and fast nano cruisers. And I know many others who do too! So doesn't it make sense that I can call out on comms "Everyone burn up!" when I'm leading a nanosquad?

the whoel reason, even in RL, that its been agreed upon that ALL solar systems have a designated XYZ axis, si ebcause navigation relative to ships would be sporadic and impossibel if EVERYOEN didnt have the exact same corrdinates.

and expaning on that, orientation with these preset coordinates is easier when positive XYZ coords are ALWAYS up, therefore the solar-plane that you fly on...

This has little to do with the topic. The client is able to render a ship, to give it a direction and to render the space around it. You do not see your ship pointing into funny or random directions.

Sure, if you want to put it like this, but I would say that you are only describing the inner mechanics and not that you are arguing against (or for) the idea.

I do not see the texture level as an issue. You should still be able to zoom in and out. And you can specify LOD and texture quality over the game's settings. If it puts more stress on the graphics card then will people tend to wanting it as long as they can switch back. I am not saying to get rid of the current view, but to give us an alternative.

By the way and because I have mixed it into the discussion earlier, how the ships behave with regards to roll, pitch and bank could be made a trade of the races.

Like 80% of the people in this thread missed the original idea completely.

Then made up their own version of it.

Lol.