Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I wouldn't mind that, although I don't think it's all that important either.

I'm assuming it, because I wrote that assumption as the first line of my post; Let's just assume a 1 : 0.5 SP trade ratio.

Your copy/paste reply is purely aimed at a 1:1 trade mechanic, that people could do on a whim, anytime anywhere.

Not that i don't understand it - it's an old topic ( as were attribute remaps and the skill queue before they were introduced, and didn't kill anything ), but using an old copy/paste reply, is not a great way to promote a constructive discussion - since you are replying the same thing, even tho people might have moved on and tried to adjust their ideas.

I'd like to chime in, as a fairly new player...

I think it's a great idea, although, you should only be able to change maybe the first 1 or 2 million you trained at the beggining of your life.

I for one, coming into this game with zero knowledge about it, and my only input about how to play came from people (although I'm sure they meant to be helpful) in the n00b channel. Where I was told to go through all the tutorials, you'll get "Ships and Modules!", and skill books, a n00b like me assumed needed to be trained. So there I went, training skills I now know I have no use for. Admittedly, it's not a whole lot of SP, but I think I could find a good home for it.

What about all the people that came before you "with zero knowledge" of the game? Your situation is not new. As for skills you no longer want, did you ever use those skills? Many people train mining skills in the early game to make relatively easy money to start out with. Then they realize that mining is sorta a boring occupation whereas pvp is more dynamic hardly ever the same thing twice.

How do you remap that isk you made mining as a noob? Would you rather the piddly income of level 1, 2, and 3 (as a relatively unskilled noob) missions? No. This was never meant to be an easy game, and if you think you have it hard now, it was so much worse to start out years ago. Accept that the skills you no longer use or want to use were something you wanted and probably used quite a bit at one time. There, is that so terrible?

And if you are still wanting candy, re-read Tippia's post. The candy is a lie. Oh but it's just a one time thing? No it won't be. You'll keep wanting the false candy. All the poeple coming after you will complain that you got the candy and want theirs too. It will never end and the skills will have no meaning and then eve will trully be dead.

I see what you're getting at. Perhaps I did use some of those skills at one point during my early days. And I have seen other games go downhill after implementing such things. But Eve is unique in that there is no "Max Level". It goes on and on. And to have the ability to make a slight change to skills you trained at the beggining of your career doesn't really seem too game-breaking to me.

As for people who come after me. I was thinking it'd be a permanent feature of the game. Kinda like remapping, only able to use once, though.

Note: As for mining, I trained it for the tutorial, never used it again, as I couldn't understand how it was "fun" or "profitable".

Even if they did offer this I wouldn't use it. I've got a handful of stupid skill choices that I made back when I was a complete noob. I like having them around just so I can see how far I've come since then (not much tbh).

What he said.

I'm all for having you stick with your choices.

If you started out as a miner and eventually became a pirate, it's part of your background. Being able to relocate SP would lead to everybody and their cousins funneling characters into setups that work (just as Battleclinic fits with lots of positive votes), effectively denying past mistakes and choices.

If you screwed up in the past, or changed your mind, you deal with the consequences.

And this comes from someone who would like to learn PvP, and has quite a lot of millions of SP into Hulk piloting, mineral refining, gas harvesting, half-assed production and planetary interaction.

If I could undo all those poor choices and turn them into Minmatar Battleship V, for example, EvE would not be what I'd like it to be: a living, constant world in which you reside and try to succeed. Not something tailored to my immediate needs.

Darius Brinn is a moron and, among the numerous options that the EvE universe gives us, he can't do anything right: he sucks at PvP, his mining, PI and refining are mediocre, his LvL 4 revenue per hour leaves much to be desired and he can't manufacture anything for a profit anywhere. But I MADE HIM THIS WAY through poor choices.

Allowing me to dramatically increase his PvP performace through SP reallocating is definitely NOT fair to the players I might face in combat.

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I have corp management and a few other skills I have no use for and they would be better allocated towards something useful.

No thanks.