Ships & Modules

As far as people thinking hulks need more EHP, they were never meant to be combat-ready ships, that's why mining fleets would sometimes run with combat support to guard them. If they wanted to be very cheap in highsec, have an ECM trained pilot take a Falcon so he can jam any aggressors.

Thats what happens when people can profit from "others" failing to fit a tank.

Fixed.

personally, i've only lost one hulk. my 1st hulk. and that's because back in '09 when i quite mining i gave that hulk to a friend who saw fit (against me screaming at him not to do so) to fly it around during a war dec.

and hell no that shouldn't be what happens to anybody in high sec. no throw away alt should solo a hulk in high sec before concord arrives. and i don't give a damn what kind of tank said hulk has at the time of it's demise. only wat this should be possible is to a covetor because those can have no tank compared to the hulk.

News just in, ships with no tank dont tend to tank very well. Want a tank? then fit a tank.

I haven't seen any kill mails because personally I think they are pointless and I don't waste my time looking at them.

You have lost me.. you are not talking about my buffer hulk, your talking about any hulk.

Well surely if you are talking about any hulk that would include my buffer tank hulk as well.

Actually.. what are you trying to say because you post makes no sense what so ever.

KMs are pointless? you no pay attention to them? lol

since you're not trying to follow what i'm trying to convey then i'll do it another way.

it should not be possible for a throw away trial alt to solo a hulk in high sec when it's fitted with a tank using a small booster cap stable.

clearly this is the more than common setup for allot of high sec peeps. and that should be enough to survive a solo throw away suicide trial alt in a catalyst in high sec before concord arrives.

Again it needs to be said that the issue with these ships is not tank (As in the ability to resist damage over time) but susceptibility to alpha (High alpha quickly overwhelms defence before CONCORD or blues can respond)

A nullsec hulk that can tank NPCs should cost nearly a billion. That is normal. What isn't normal is these craft falling to such cheap gank craft in hisec.

They dont need more sustained tank. They need alpha prevention via a massive boost to structure HP. That way it becomes stupid not to fly with a DCU and with said DCU it costs more per gank which will equalize things out.

I don't see anything else in that KM than the simple fact that isn't even worthy put tank modules on that ship for what they bring. Also that guy must be a rich player or probably a bot, who would mine with an hulk when you WILL ALWAYS have much better yeld doing other activities?

Doesn't your argument also means that if your alliance looses so many Tornados is because they are too lazy to fit tank on those, or because like the hulk, they fit for a specific task?

Again it needs to be said that the issue with these ships is not tank (As in the ability to resist damage over time) but susceptibility to alpha (High alpha quickly overwhelms defence before CONCORD or blues can respond).